Discussion in 'Political Discussion' started by Harry Boy, Apr 4, 2009.
Pittsburgh, 3 cops shot dead in doorway.
For more on this go to Fox News.
This is getting out of hand, i blame the economy for some of it. Its not just these recent shootings, but there have been a number of people shooting their families then themselves.
I bet there is some merit to this. Economic woes seem to exacerbate these things.
There have been 3-4 of these it seems in the lst 5-6 weeks. I think the last one was in Kansas or oklahoma not sure. Guy shoots his wife, kids,his inlaws and himself. I think 7 all toghether. Really sad stuff.
It's terribly sad what's going on. The availability of guns and the cutbacks in mental health services are a lethal combination. If we're not going to have stricter gun control, we must do a better job identifying and helping potential killers before they act. A friend of mine who works in downtown Boston said that at the T stations he uses they regularly have groups of police around randomly scanning people's bags. It's creepy what's going on in this country right now. I think a number of people have become unhinged because of this recession. I read somewhere that there is no clearcut definition of a depression, but if these tragedies of the last few days continue, I think it will be safe to say we're in a depression. People are getting desperate.
Reading more about it, this is an example of where right-wing extremism caused the deaths of the three police officers. While clearly Poplawski is nuts, it was those on the right who make outrageous claims about Obama that resonated with him. He probably believes he's a hero, and I bet we'll see some sympathy for him in some right wing outlets.
Poplawski had feared "the Obama gun ban that's on the way" and "didn't like our rights being infringed upon," said Edward Perkovic, his best friend.
So the left pissed John Hinckley off ... wtf with this logic?
It's America ... land of free speech ... if we're going to worry about offending people now then goodbye free speech in the media.
when we're all done blaming the left, and pretending it's only on Faux News, perhaps we can realize what Patters said is true... This was another extremist, blaming Obama for everything:
From the AP story:
Police Chief Nate Harper said the motive for the shooting isnâ€™t clear, but friends said the gunman recently had been upset about losing his job and feared the Obama administration was poised to ban guns.
Free speech is a responsibility and, besides, I never said I'm against free speech, but that doesn't mean that people shouldn't push back when a speech is inflammatory and dishonest.
So then what exactly are you saying here?
Someone is always going to be pissed off at a President and/or political opinions.
We are supposed to not voice our opinion when we disagree?
Come on ... we are all educated enough to know how much the cable networks inflame many things ... they all do it. They all have their foot soldiers monitoring each other all day and they almost instantly fan or douse the flames. You understand the media from the inside ... more than many of us.
First off, the Associated Press is not the "cable networks."
Second, are you insinuating they're making up statements from the shooter's friends?
I think there are always disgruntled people out there capable of the most horrific of acts. I just don't see where a free speech media is capable of placating everyone. There is a ton of media out there and lots of pissed off people from every opinion available.
I asked you a question.
Are you saying you believe the Associated Press is lying about what the man's friends said were his motivations? Or that the sources themselves were lying TO the media?
I think we're talking about different things here.
As to question #1 ... no I don't believe they are lying.
As to question #2 ... no I don't think the sources are lying.
I was alluding to those in the media who sensationalize political decisions and opinion. The disgruntled feed off of that. Perhaps I was got off the track somewhere as to the aim of the thread?
There is always an increase of these types of things when the economy hits the ****ter.. there is also a lot of hysteria on the classic right wing sites, read worldnet.. newsmax.. today Obama wants to take complete control of the internet. People who are unemployed, a tad nuts anyways are more vulnerable to this kind of stuff..
BTW too bad for the Police and their families..
What I'm saying is that those on the right who insist that Obama is a socialist, will outlaw guns, or will impose martial law bare some responsibility for this tragedy. If they truly believe those things about Obama, they have a responsibility to speak up, but I suspect some of those people are engaged in political posturing. I'm making the same type of argument that the right uses against people like Al Sharpton, who I agree has at times inflamed a dangerous situation with his words.
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