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2nd and 3rd round starters-dont hold your breath

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    In the last 6 years players drafted in either the 2nd or 3rd rounds by the Pats other than Kaczur and Hobbs have started a grand total of 15 games...half of those by Butler and the other half by Vollmer. I bitter pill to swallow for those of us stupid enough(like me) to watch the draft instead of the other Boston sports tonight. Now who doesnt like Haynesworth?? LMAO Those odds say there is a 2/15!!!
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    #11 Jersey

    Haha, sorry bro but why would we be stupid to watch the NFL draft. It only happens once a year and this is a deep draft. Not to mention you get to see where everyone goes. Your stupid if you are watching the red sox get their asses kicked.
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    Its called playoff Hockey and playoff basketball.....burnin up that remote unit!
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    Three starters today. Book it.
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    Why do you post here? Seriously. All you ever do is B!TCH and MOAN about the players the Pats take..

    BTW, You forgot to include Wes Welker and Corey Dillon in your analysis of 2nd round picks.

    You also forgot the game that Wheatley started before he broke his left wrist...

    David Thomas had 13 starts for the Patriots.

    Pat Chung also started a game last year.

    And you continue to claim you're a scientist. You don't even look up all the facts before throwing out your BS. Hell, just in Wheatley, Thomas and Chung, I added another 15 games you didn't count.. And then there are all the games that Welker and Dillon played..

    Dude.. GIVE IT UP.
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    This is an opinion board that has had a draft contest each year right? No one has EVER got 3/12 players in the history of the contest....I got 3 in a row TODAY so sit down and shut up! I am NOT B*tching today at all, GREAT day! But I have every reason to complain about that CB pick. Now I do think they were after Gresham and Tebow but got out-foxed on both accounts and were boxed in and totally reached. We will never know....
    As far as being a scientist, yes I am. Are you a BRUINZ?? ROFLMAO!! As far as Thomas starting games, I seriously dont count 2 TE sets as that first play last year was the 6 OL gimmick with Vollmer on the field. Missing a game here or there with backup subs for DBs, guilty. My point was 100% accurate, of the 15 players picked over the last 6 years in rounds 2 and 3 only 2 have accumulated any kind of regular playing time. The post is about draft picks not trades. :bricks:Yes I realize last year's 4 are up and coming(hopefully) and this years deep draft's status may up the % from the 14% its at now. Look at other team's success rates, I suggest that 14% over the last 6 years would be low to average...certainly not high but I will look it up for a few teams and get back to you.
    I am neither a homer nor a moaner and I call em as I see em. Yesterday was not such a great day, but today was excellent! Most would agree but again this is an opinion board there so suck it up and blow it in another direction! You have been taken to school, and this time its not the short bus!
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    Gronkowski, Spikes, Cunningham, basically all those guys will play a lot. They are all good picks, I'm a little iffy on cunningham...florida DEs don't do much historically, but I'm confident on the other 3.
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    We had a solid draft so far in the top 3 or 4 i'm sure.
    Why so negative?
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    The original post was of course made BEFORE todays draft. I am stoked today!! I nailed all 3 2nd rd picks, channelling BB here so listen careful. Our TEs and LBs play situationally so they will get lots of playing time I agree. I would hestitate to call any of em 3 down starters for sure. But if we got 2/4 today it will be the best we have done in the BB era.
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    #50 Jersey

    Dude - That has absolutly NOTHING to do with this thread or with the fact that you didn't bother to check your facts regarding this thread. This is a poor friggin attempt by you to deflect that you suck at actually checking your facts.


    Yes, you are b!tching. And you don't have a supported reason to complain about the pick of McCourty. You have your speculation and conjecture. And it's only supported by your own guesses. Not fact.


    Your point wasn't 100% accurate and I proved that. I showed that you You just selectively chose your data to support your flawed opinion. The FACT is that the NFL lists what I posted. It wasn't me just plucking sh!t out of thin air. You'd know that if you actually had checked ALL 15 players, which you clearly didn't. You got caught lying and now you are trying desperately to CYA and you are failing miserably.


    This post was about you complaining and b!tching like you always do about Patriots picks regardless of whether you have your facts in order. Unfortunately, you failed MISERABLY and now are tyring to spin your way out of it like you always do.


    Dude - That has absolutly NOTHING to do with this thread or with the fact that you didn't bother to check your facts regarding this thread. This is a poor friggin attempt by you to deflect that you suck at actually checking your facts.

    Yes, you are b!tching. And you don't have a supported reason to complain about the pick of McCourty. You have your speculation and conjecture.



    Yes, It is an opinion board. And I am entitled to my opinion as well. And that includes having an opinion on the garbage you decide to post. This seems to be something you don't understand. The Freedom of Speech does NOT protect you from the repercussions of you deciding to use that Freedom.

    As for schooling me, you've done no such thing. You've tried, but you've failed. Miserably. AGAIN.
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    Mr. Da Bruiz says:"Dude - That has absolutly NOTHING to do with this thread or with the fact that you didn't bother to check your facts regarding this thread. This is a poor friggin attempt by you to deflect that you suck at actually checking your facts.


    Yes, you are b!tching. And you don't have a supported reason to complain about the pick of McCourty. You have your speculation and conjecture. And it's only supported by your own guesses. Not fact. "


    You question my fact checking. Now I did spend 10-15 minutes looking up and doing some quick math and came to 2 and 1/6 out of 15. You did MORE work into it and found that it was more like 2 and 2/6 out of 15. The difference isnt worth my time spent looking it up, my point was made to everyone but YOU. I never complained about McC in this thread, read the title. My speculation is supported by documented history, what supports yours? This isnt a p*ssin contest.

    Mr Da Bruinz says "Your point wasn't 100% accurate and I proved that. I showed that you You just selectively chose your data to support your flawed opinion. The FACT is that the NFL lists what I posted. It wasn't me just plucking sh!t out of thin air. You'd know that if you actually had checked ALL 15 players, which you clearly didn't. You got caught lying and now you are trying desperately to CYA and you are failing miserably. "

    Um, no. My post was to make a point, not to pass a 100% Mr. Dabruinz test. I'd say I was more than 95% correct(that is an A in any school) and I made my point. Facts like Thomas starting that many games we as Patsfans can attest dont make him a STARTER. I dont consider this LYING, I consider that statistic as kept by the NFL completely misleading. Lets leave it for readers to decide if they want to include Thomas' 13/96 to my original 2 and 1/6. Hardly any desperation there pal. Misleading statistic like you scoring at your family reunion...it shouldnt count...

    Mr Da Bruinz says "This post was about you complaining and b!tching like you always do about Patriots picks regardless of whether you have your facts in order. Unfortunately, you failed MISERABLY and now are tyring to spin your way out of it like you always do."

    Um, no again. This is me providing a albeit semi-accurate statistic for those who are asking if we picked up 4-5 starters so far. If you want to post the ACTUAL statistics and put your name on the post I will take mine off and you can make my point for me. Until then, its YOU thats B*tching. I am a scientist BTW that is paid for by your tax dollars(if you pay em) so THANK YOU! I work hard and dont have that extra hour to get that last ~13~games started by our long snapper. Which makes me wonder, if we kick off isnt the kickoff team the real "starters"?? I mean if you want to be to the letter of the law you should write the NFL and have it changed. It really doesnt bother me, my point was made a long time ago.

    Mr Da Bruinz says"Dude - That has absolutly NOTHING to do with this thread or with the fact that you didn't bother to check your facts regarding this thread. This is a poor friggin attempt by you to deflect that you suck at actually checking your facts.

    Yes, you are b!tching. And you don't have a supported reason to complain about the pick of McCourty. You have your speculation and conjecture. "

    I'd say the point of me knowing enough about this team to have doubled for BB without missing a pick in round 2 yesterday doesnt impress you? Funny, it impresses me and I actually did it. I'm sure it impresses others here that will give my statistics needed credence accordingly. That is not speculation or conjecture. Again, not talking about McC in this thread, please read the title.

    Mr Da Bruinz says"Yes, It is an opinion board. And I am entitled to my opinion as well. And that includes having an opinion on the garbage you decide to post. This seems to be something you don't understand. The Freedom of Speech does NOT protect you from the repercussions of you deciding to use that Freedom.

    As for schooling me, you've done no such thing. You've tried, but you've failed. Miserably. AGAIN. "

    Well Mr. Dabruinz, you seem to make alot out of a little, and I was trying to make a little out of a little. Who is right is an opinion but if you ever got an A in school you would know that you dont have to score 100%. All you do is take away from what could be an interesting discussion. If you want to apply for the FACT CHECKER position at patsfans.com it might pay better than the drive thru. Your sabatage of my posts makes you look like an infant, but go ahead and call me names again, call me a liar if it makes you feel happy. You have a president, a parent, a friend and a spouse and you know what they have in common besides being ugly? They all lie to you. Go correct them!
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    Your speculation isn't supported by documented history. In fact, my 5 minutes of looking doubled the number of games that you had. Again, more spin on your part.

    BTW, you DID complain about the CB pick from Thurday. Here is what you said:
    DOH. Feel pretty stupid, now don't you.

    Your quote was your typical spewing garbage in an attack on the Pats management. You weren't more than 95% correct. In fact, you only accounted for 50% of the games mentioned. 50% is failure. Since being called out on it, you've done nothing but SPIN and try and salvage some sort of credibility. First, you discount 2 of the players. Then you ignore 50% of the remaining games. Then you hold it against players who were injured during their first year (McKenzie and Tate). Real great work there.


    Semi-Accurate? You are only providing a small fraction of the information. And in doing so, you are trying to make yourself look smart while taking shots at the Patriots management. The actual information is easily found on NFL.COM.

    NFL.com - Official Site of the National Football League

    No, the starters are the ones who are on the field for the first offensive and defensive series of the game. The Special Teams players are not considered starters. Again, more drivel from you.

    If you are an example of the type of scientists that the US Government pays for, it's no wonder that they have to pull drugs like Baycol off the market. Because you are horrible.



    *ROFLMAO* You think you are as smart as Belichick. All because you GUESSED. It's pretty amazing that your guesses went up barely an hour before the draft started.


    It would have been an interesting conversation if you had actually bothered to check your facts ahead of time instead of providing a garbage premise that was easily proven to be wrong and incomplete.

    If proving facts so that a true picture can be viewed is "sabotaging your posts" then it would seem you need to do a better job prior to actually posting. It doesn't make me look like anything but someone who actually checked the facts.

    As for your infantile attempts to belittle me, I've had 3 year olds do a better job than you.

    Why don't you do everyone a favor and disappear like you always do. The Board would be better off for it.
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