2011 Patriots Roster Predictions

[SirApropos]

Still Very Early 53 Man Depth Chart

Offense: 25
QB (2) – Tom Brady, Ryan Mallett
RB (5) – BenJarvus Green-Ellis, Danny Woodhead, Kevin Faulk, Shane Vareen, Stevan Ridley
WR (6) – Wes Welker, Deion Branch, Chad Ochocinco, Taylor Price, Julian Edleman, Aaron Hernandez
TE (3) – Rob Gronkowski, Lee Smith, Will Yeatman
OL (9) – Matt Light, Nate Solder, Logan Mankins, Dan Koppen, Ryan Wendell, Dan Connolly, Marcus Cannon, Sebastian Vollmer, Steve Maneri

Defense: 24 + 1 DL trade before final cuts
DE/OLB (3) – Jermaine Cunningham, Eric Moore, Mark Anderson
DT (5) – Vince Wilfork, Albert Haynesworth, Ron Brace, Mike Wright, Kyle Love
LB (7) –Jerod Mayo, Brandon Spikes, Gary Guyton, Dane Fletcher, Rob Ninkovich, Josh Barrett, Jeff Tarpinian
CB (5) – Devin McCourty, Leigh Bodden, Kyle Arrington, Ras-I Dowling, Darius Butler
S (4) – James Sanders, Brandon Meriweather, Pat Chung, Sergio Brown

ST: 3
K – Stephen Gostkowski
P – Zoltan Mesko
LS – Matt Katula


Notes:
ST: Matt Slater, Tracy White, Sammy Morris – A lot is made of Slater and White leading the team in ST tackles. With the changes to the Kickoff Rules this becomes less of a priority and you also have solid ST contributors like Kyle Arrington who can focus a bit more of his attention on ST now that he is going back to a nickel CB roll with Bodden returning. Arrington actually had more solo ST tackles than Slater going into the final reg season game in 2010. There are also nice additions to the roster in the form of Jeff Tarpinian to replace Tracy White, half of his ST tackles were assisted anyway. Sergio Brown and Josh Barrett can step up in a ST roll as well.

WR Brandon Tate – Final cuts/trade. There just isn’t room with the addition of Ochocinco and the hopeful emergence of Price and Hernandez as viable WR replacements for Tate. Edleman can expand on his role as a KR/PR since it doesn’t look like he’s breaking into the top 3 WR this year.

QB Brian Hoyer – Traded to the Rams for a 5th-6th rounder. He has more experience in the offensive system that McDaniels is installing than either Bradford or A.J Feeley and is also cheaper than Feeley as a backup QB who can also tutor Bradford.

IR/PUP:
DE Brandon Deaderick
DT Myron Pryor

 

[pdangle]

Had BB even seen Faulk practice before he uttered those now famous words that there was room on the Pats 2011 team for him? I'm thinking realistically, seen it happen to many players getting hurt, so all you KF lovers don't get all bent out of shape. Once BB really gets to fully evaluate the now best estimate only 90%-97% knee pre-2010 Faulk, sliding another year down on the aging curve (which is practically steep like dog years for the NFL), throw in 4 younger and improving, even star quality if lucky RB's options that are cheaper to boot, he might change his tune, ecspecially if it means dumping someone else he likes.

I'd love to see KF the mentor of all 4 these RBs and PUP him(is that even possible?)or IR, or ghost roster then release him into the coaching sunset like the Marlboro Man. I just don't see what he adds as a player vs potential other player losses or performance. Blitz pickups, hot route adjustments, morale booster(jk). If they thought BGDE was predicatble in 2010, what about KF in 2011? Options limited . It will be interesting for sure if his experience wins out. But I'd still say it would be a mistake even for BB. That would be like his seventh error since 01 right? Again, just another sidenote that's buidling my interest for Pats 2011 TC. Seeing how the master hoddie handles it is always fun.

 

[crowell33]

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[cstjohn17]

Re: Roster Forecasting as of 7/30

I'm OK with most of your choices at this point. Tate may or may not be the WR cut, but he is a reasonable choice. Brown may or may not beat out Barrett, Lockett and McGowan for #4 safety spot. This is a really a special teams spots since Dowling can be considered the #4 Safety.

But there is no way we're cutting Moore and playing with only 6 LB plus a special teams linebacker. I would cut Morris to keep Moore.

Good points, forgot about Moore. Add him place Faulk on PUP (Shadow roster) and then put Ellis in place instead of one of the cast of nameless, faceless defensive linemen.

 

[fumbrunner]

Re: Roster Forecasting as of 7/30

Here goes nothing - With the latest signings......


QB (3): Brady, Hoyer, Mallett

RB (5): Green-Ellis, Woodhead, Faulk, Vereen, Ridley

WR (7): Welker, Branch, Ochocinco, Edelman, Price, Tate (Special Teams), Slater (Special Teams)

TE (3): Gronkowski, Hernandez, Smith

OT (4): Light, Vollmer, Solder, LeVoir

G/C (5): Mankins, Koppen, Connolly, Wendell, Ohnberger

NT/DE (6): Wilfork, Haynesworth, Wright, Brace, Carter, Ellis

OLB (4): Ninkovich, Cunningham, Moore, Anderson

ILB (4): Mayo, Spikes, Guyton, Fletcher

CB (5): McCourty, Bodden, Dowling, Arrington, Butler

S (4): Meriweather, Chung, Sanders, Page

K (1): Gostkowski
P (1): Mesko
LS (1): Katula

 

[JSn]

Re: Roster Forecasting as of 7/30

Who's Page? Jarrad Page has left the building.

Here goes nothing - With the latest signings......


QB (3): Brady, Hoyer, Mallett

RB (5): Green-Ellis, Woodhead, Faulk, Vereen, Ridley

WR (7): Welker, Branch, Ochocinco, Edelman, Price, Tate (Special Teams), Slater (Special Teams)

TE (3): Gronkowski, Hernandez, Smith

OT (4): Light, Vollmer, Solder, LeVoir

G/C (5): Mankins, Koppen, Connolly, Wendell, Ohnberger

NT/DE (6): Wilfork, Haynesworth, Wright, Brace, Carter, Ellis

OLB (4): Ninkovich, Cunningham, Moore, Anderson

ILB (4): Mayo, Spikes, Guyton, Fletcher

CB (5): McCourty, Bodden, Dowling, Arrington, Butler

S (4): Meriweather, Chung, Sanders, Page

K (1): Gostkowski
P (1): Mesko
LS (1): Katula

 

[fumbrunner]

Re: Roster Forecasting as of 7/30

Who's Page? Jarrad Page has left the building.

Shoot! Didn't change that when I cut and pasted from the OP. Let's go with Goldson there, if he winds up signing.

 

[cstjohn17]

Re: Roster Forecasting as of 7/30

The ink wasn't even dry and then we signed 9,975 more defensive linemen. Lets try again.

OFFENSE (25)
QB (3) BRADY, HOYER, MALLETT
RB (5) RIDLEY, VEREEN, BJGE, WOODHEAD, MORRIS
WR (6) WELKER, EDELMAN, PRICE, OCHOCINCO, BRANCH, SLATER
TE (3) GRONKOWSKI, HERNANDEZ, LEE
OL (8) LIGHT, MANKINS, KOPPEN, SOLDER, VOLLMER
CONNOLLY, LEVOIR, WENDELL

DEFENSE (25)
DT (4) HAYNESWORTH, WILFORK, BRACE, WARREN
DE (5) WRIGHT, ELLIS, MOORE, CARTER, ANDERSON
LB (7) NINKOVICH, CUNNINGHAM, GUYTON, MAYO, SPIKES, FLETCHER, WHITE
CB (5) BODDEN, DOWLING, MCCOURTY, WILHITE, ARRINGTON
S (4) MERRIWEATHER, SANDERS, CHUNG, BROWN

SPECIALISTS (3)
K (1) GOSTKOWSKI
P (1) MESKO

LS (1) KATULA

PUP - FAULK, CANNON

 

[crowell33]

2011 Patriots Roster Prediction 3.0 | NEPatriotsDraft.com - Patriots NFL Draft Site

Brace not even one of the last 3 cuts

 

[supafly]

2011 Patriots Roster Prediction 3.0 | NEPatriotsDraft.com - Patriots NFL Draft Site

Brace not even one of the last 3 cuts

Surprise, surprise...Pryor stays and Brace goes, who woulda thunk it?

I also found the keeping all WR's AND Faulk quite relevant, as Slater is the one to go. Again, completely unfathomable.

They couldn't have said it better in describing the recent string of DL signings, as they give us depth and versatility in both 30/40 fronts + multiple formations/sets. Another great point is that it also gives us a TON of DL AND LB's--so in essence, it provides value and incredible depth and competition.

I'm sure that they'll be a little off like last yr (50 of 53), but a nice link regardless.

 

[supafly]

Re: Roster Forecasting as of 7/30

Shoot! Didn't change that when I cut and pasted from the OP. Let's go with Goldson there, if he winds up signing.

(buzzer sound)

WRONG again...

Let's try Sergio Brown, who showed promise last yr and is here on the cheap. He also piques the interest of the coaches, as far as potential.

You may be right as far as someone else coming in as a 5TH safety, or maybe even camp fodder, but I truly think that Sergio Brown makes this team.

 

[mad_scientist]

Let us start speculating then......peek in and comment fellow pats

Mad_scientist says let start speculating.....

Now is the time to put on BB's shoes fellas. start thinking like the hoddie does (i know i know....just imagine).
Below is my take, read and let me know what you guys think and want to be done with the roster and game plans this season.

I have a vision, to see a 4 man front for the Pats with Vince/Albert @ DT's, Andre carter/Shaun ellis @ DE's. Just imagine what a wreck the opposite OL would be with these guys pushing the pocket into their QB's face and forcing him to surrender. I honestly believe if all 4 could play their best game we'll see a lot more pressure on the opposing QB's this season with a standard 4 man rush. We can keep the guys fresh with the depth @ both Tackle & End in Wright,Pryor,Warren,Mark anderson,Cunningham,Moore,Ninkovich..(check my depth chart below). That'll help the LB's to run free and wreak havoc on the RB's....Spikes @ ILB, Mayo/Guyton @ OLB. Reading the reports from camp, Leigh bodden seems to be back. Mccourty/Bodden @ CB...Chung/Meriweather @ Safety. My only concern is with meriweather at this point, he is the weakest link on this defense.

Offense is still a question mark at this point to comment more, but, what the HECK.....we have the man to do the job. TOM BRADY!!!

My wish list against the Jets....
1) Send in the house and demolish the phony Sanchize.
2) Kick some fat ass.
3) Logan mankins breaking bart scott into half.
4) Vince/Albert falling flat on LT.
5) Brady to show cromartie who the real A**H**** is.....
6) Bomb the revis island into stone age.

My 53 man roster at this point in the season (I listed 57 players, 3 likely to be cut and one (Marcus cannon) to IR).

TACKLE
Vince wilfork
Albert haynesworth
Mike wright
Shaun ellis (Hybrid)
Myron pryor
Kyle love
Gerard warren (Hybrid)

END
Andre carter
Eric moore
Jermaine cunningham
Mark anderson
Markell carter (could be let go)

ILB
Brandon spikes
Dane fletcher
Tracy white

OLB
Jerod mayo
Rob ninkovich
Gary guyton
Jeff tarpinian (could be let go)

CB
Devin mccourty
Leigh bodden
Kyle arrington
Ras-I-Dowling (Rookie)
Jonathan wilhite (could be let go)

SAFETY
Patrick chung
Brandon meriweather
James sanders
Sergio brown

QB
Tom brady
Brian hoyer
Ryan mallett (Rookie)

RB
BJGE
Danny woodhead
Shane vereen (Rookie)
Stevan ridley (Rookie)
Kevin faulk

RECEIVER
Wes welker
Chad ochocinco
Deion branch
Taylor price
Brandon tate
Julian edelman

TE
Rob gronkowski
Aaron hernandez
Lee smith (Rookie)

OT
Matt light
Sebastian vollmer
Nate solder (Rookie)
Mark levoir

OG/C
Dan koppen
Logan mankins
Dan connolly
Rich ohrnberger
Marcus cannon (IR)

SPECIALISTS
Stephan gostkowski
Zoltan mesko
Matt katula

 

[Water Boy]

Updated Roster Prediction Thread 8-10-11

Here's my humble attempt at the Pats 53 man roster. I am self admittedly terrible at this:


Offense 27

QB 3 Brady, Hoyer Mallet
RB 5 BJGE, Woodhead, Ridley, Vareen, Morris
WR 6 Welker, Branch, Ochocinco, Edleman, Taylor, Slater
TE 4 Gronkowski, Hernandez, Crumpler, Smith
OL 9 Light, Mankins, Koppen, Connolly, Vollmer, Solder, LeVoir, Wendell, Morris


Defense 23

DL 7 Wilfork, Haynesworth, Ellis, Wright, G. Warren, Carter, Anderson
LB 7 Mayo, Spikes, Guyton, Fletcher, Ninkovich, Cunningham, Moore
CB 5 McCourty, Bodden, Arrington, Ras I Dowling, Butler
S 4 Merriweather, Chung, Sanders, Brown

ST 3 Gostkowski, Mesko, Katula

PUP Cannon, Faulk


Cuts of interest: Brace, Deadrick (too many talented veterans in the fold), Wilhite, Tate

 

[Fencer]

Re: Updated Roster Prediction Thread 8-10-11

Cuts of interest: Brace, Deadrick

Leave 'em on PUP.

Also, relegate Crumpler to the shadow roster and use his spot elsewhere.

 

[WhiZa]

Re: Updated Roster Prediction Thread 8-10-11

Wasn't Crumpler already cut?

Wilhite vs Butler. It will be an interesting battle. We may keep both and only have 3 safeties. While putting Brown on the PS

 

[jah]

Re: Updated Roster Prediction Thread 8-10-11

I get so sad when Love is cut on predictions

 

[Sciz]

Re: Updated Roster Prediction Thread 8-10-11

Wasn't Crumpler already cut?

Wilhite vs Butler. It will be an interesting battle. We may keep both and only have 3 safeties. While putting Brown on the PS

Brown can't go on practice squad. He played in 11 games last year. Max is 8, I believe.

 

[jsull87]

Re: Updated Roster Prediction Thread 8-10-11

Offense 27

QB 3 Brady, Hoyer Mallet
RB 5 BJGE, Woodhead, Ridley, Vareen, Morris
WR 7 Welker, Branch, Ochocinco, Edleman, Taylor, Slater, Tate
TE 3 Gronkowski, Hernandez, Smith
OL 9 Light, Mankins, Koppen, Connolly, Vollmer, Solder, LeVoir, Wendell, Orgnberger


Defense 23

DL 7 Wilfork, Haynesworth, Ellis, Wright, G. Warren, Carter, Brace
LB 7 Mayo, Spikes, Guyton, Fletcher, Ninkovich, Cunningham, Moore
CB 5 McCourty, Bodden, Arrington, Ras I Dowling, Butler
S 4 Merriweather, Chung, Sanders, Brown

ST 3 Gostkowski, Mesko, Katula

PUP Cannon, Faulk

 

[Armchair Quarterback]

Re: Updated Roster Prediction Thread 8-10-11

QB Brady, Hoyer, Mallett
RB BJGE, Woodhead, Vereen, Ridley
WR Ochocinco, Branch, Welker, Edelman, Price, Tate
TE Gronk, Hernandez, Smith, Yeatman
OT Vollmer, Solder, Light, Maneri
OG Mankins, Connolly, Wendell
C Koppen

DL Wilfork, Haynesworth, Pryor, Love, Weston, Wright
DE A.Carter, Ellis
DE/OLB Cunningham, Moore, M.Carter
LB Mayo, Fletcher, Guyton, Spikes, Ninkovich(LS), Tarpinian
CB McCourty, Bodden, Arrington, Butler
FS Dowling, Meriweather, Sanders
SS Chung, Brown

K Gostkowski
P Mesko

PUP Cannon, Faulk, Brace, Deaderick

PS candidates Silvestro, Cox, Lavarias, Williams, Kettani, Medlin, Ross

Notable cuts Warren, Anderson, Barrett, S.Morris, White, Wilhite, Slater

 

[Dufflebagz]

Re: Updated Roster Prediction Thread 8-10-11

QB Brady, Hoyer, Mallett
RB BJGE, Woodhead, Vereen, Ridley
WR Ochocinco, Branch, Welker, Edelman, Price, Tate
TE Gronk, Hernandez, Smith, Yeatman
OT Vollmer, Solder, Light, Maneri
OG Mankins, Connolly, Wendell
C Koppen

DL Wilfork, Haynesworth, Pryor, Love, Weston, Wright
DE A.Carter, Ellis
DE/OLB Cunningham, Moore, M.Carter
LB Mayo, Fletcher, Guyton, Spikes, Ninkovich(LS), Tarpinian
CB McCourty, Bodden, Arrington, Butler
FS Dowling, Meriweather, Sanders
SS Chung, Brown

K Gostkowski
P Mesko

PUP Cannon, Faulk, Brace, Deaderick

PS candidates Silvestro, Cox, Lavarias, Williams, Kettani, Medlin, Ross

Notable cuts Warren, Anderson, Barrett, S.Morris, White, Wilhite, Slater

I see you aren't too big on ST only players.