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    According to PFT Mike Florio, if there was a salary cap in 2010, the Patriots would rank #20 with a salary cap charge of $112 million for the team. The Dallas Cowboys rank #1 with a salary cap charge of $153 million.

    The Patriots enter the uncapped year currently $15.8 million in salary below the 2009 Patriots team salary of $127.8 million.
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    What that shows you is how poorly managed the cap was for the Cowboys (and others) in past years.
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    Ah yes. But the question is, would Auntie Bobbie spend enough to build a winning football team ?
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    When was the last time the Patriots fielded a team that couldn't be regarded a 'winning one'?
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    Since the last time we won the Superbowl was 2004, I'm going to say 2005.
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    Wow... just wow...
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    :bricks: You high expectations people do not deserve championship winning teams.
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    I think it was Bill Belichick who said " show me a good loser and I will show you a loser".
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    Sadly, thats the answer I expected.
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    crowell33 is right. 4 playoff appearances in 5 years, 2 conference title game appearances, 1 SB appearance and a 64-25 record is an abject failure.

    No question a SB title is the missing piece and having lofty expectations are great (I have them too), but to label every year since 04 a failure is ridiculous.
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    True Statement. People around here are so spoiled.


    I think a good question to be asked now would be where was the cap in last march?


    But if we want to use this number I still think they are right about where they should be. 5 Mil left for rookies and emergencies and 10 mil below last year in order to prepare for next year which likely will be a smaller cap than last year. Of the 10 mil next year you could use as much as you want on one year deals as they will come of the books. So I expect a couple of Vets to be signed to one year deals between now and TC but I would not expect many long term deals except Tom.
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    Apparently you can't grasp the meaning of that quote.
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    I am sure Mr, Brady's impending extension will eat up a bit of the imaginary cap room.
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    So, Crowell, can we reasonably assume that you absolutely DOMINATE your career, year-in and year-out, to an absolutely inhuman level?
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    When did he make this statement? Did he take into account all the new contracts after the end of 2009...particularly Wilfork, Bodden and TBC? I would have to figure that just those 3 would cost the Pats over $10M in 2010 cap charges. Add in the RFA tenders and budget for the remaining roster spots (do they even have 53 players under contract at this point?) and I would think the 2010 "cap" for the Pats would end up being pretty high.
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    Well based on that definition of what a winning football team is, the Colts and Jets (a couple of teams many here like to compare to the Pats) failed to field a winning team just as badly as the Pats did last year. In fact, you can lump those three with the Rams, Lions and Bucs; they were all the same last season in their failure to field a winning team.


    Or perhaps we should all just look at it this way: if a person is born a fan of a team (in this case the Pats), in a 32-team league he or she should on average see their team win a championship at age 16. After that they should see on average another championship once every 32 years, which would be at age 48 and then at age 80. Since we have witnessed a lifetime worth of championships, I guess we should now convert to being fans of the Jets, Bills or Browns since they are overdue for 'fielding a winning team'.
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    Actually, yes.
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    Real nice Mr. Cool. The guy was making a legitimate point. EAT YOUR SUPPER AND GO TO BED.
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    Legitimate is a subjective term in this instance.

    I don't feel his point was anymore 'legitimate' than any of your inane trade scenario's.

    Its real funny watching you try to roast me for being a kid, when its you who type's like an over-excited, under-educated teenager.
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    well does he take into consideration the likelihood brady gets paid? im assuming the pats would want to heavy load it into this year so if the cap is reinstated its less of a burden. plus we still have some guys we will likely extend. and we have 4 draft picks in first 2 rounds. and im sure we are going to make another move or 2
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    ummm last year with a 11-5 record... i'd say that was a winning one... or the year before with the same recore... maybe even the year before that with the whole 16-0 and superbowl thing i will stop there but you get the drift of my reply. god i hope you were being sarcastic
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    First of all, LivingInthePast is agreeing with you. If you re-read his post it states "When was the last time the Patriots fielded a team that couldn't be regarded as a 'winning' one?"--Meaning that you are both on the same page and you are flaming him for no reason.

    If you go back to page 1, someone responded "Not since we won the SB in 04-05," to which he states "Sadly that was the answer I was expecting."

    Secondly, The Patriots went 10-6 last year, not 11-5.
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    Apparently the OP didn't care about a reasoned debate, since he didn't bother to include the PFT link.

    Salary cap report, if there were a salary cap | ProFootballTalk.com

    Miguel's page says:
    I can't find anything about where the Pats were at this time last year, but did find a page that said the Pats were at 106M to start last year's free agency. And they eventually got to 127M. Doesn't sound like we are too far off that path.
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    The cap number is kind of an arbitrary figure. Actual cash spent is much different. The cap is just an accounting figure, and it contains monies from prior years which have been amortized.

    Given the big contracts they have handed out, I imagine the Pats have spent a lot more in actual cash than a lot of other NFL teams.
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