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  1. TheGodInAGreyHoodie

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    In 2007 early in the season we were dominating teams. Literally blowing them out of the water. Scoring more points in the first quarter than they scored all game long. And good teams too, like the Cowboys. Frequently being accused of running up the score. But as the season wore on the games got closer and closer. We still won. But many came down to the final seconds. We almost lost to a pathetic Ravens team but some butt head DC called a timeout that kept us in the game. We played our best games in September and our worst games in December. We started out great and declined. Every week we got worse. Our only really really bad game was the last one, the one in February.

    In 2010, we've won most of our games. But early on we struggled. Games were close. We were lucky to win some of them. We did not dominate. But every game we improved. Got better. And in December we have dominated. We have literally been playing our best football in December. But I don't think we have seen the best that the Patriots can play, their most complete game. That won't come until a game in February.
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    Their mediocre defense has improved into a good defense and their good offense has improved into a GREAT offense. I will be surprised if the Patriots don't make the Superbowl.
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    To be honest with you, I feel better about this team now than I ever did in 2007 about that team. Yes, they were blowing teams out of the water, but it never seemed that there was the complete "team" as I feel this team has become, and the decline throughout the year as noted in your post was noted. This team seems to be getting it all together now, which is a great time in the season to do so.

    The offense put up their most yards this season in the snow against a highly touted defense on the road; the defense played a good game today and continues to improve week by week. Arrington has shown considerable progress - progress I could've never imagined out of him just a few weeks ago in coverage. Butler's back on the field, and McCourty is now in the conversation with Suh for DROY....as hard to believe as that was. I myself was very critical of that pick when it happened, but it looks like we've got a future, if not already, top 5 cornerback on our hands.

    Right now, this team looks like it's having fun, and has united in a way that is conducive to wins down the road. I never thought I'd say I felt better about a team than I did when we were 18-0 going into the Super Bowl....but this team has convinced me, and won me over.
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    2007: First two games of December

    Opponents Record: 13-10 (.565) [4-7 Ravens, 9-3 Steelers]
    Outscored Opponents: 56-37

    2010: First two games of December

    Opponents Record: 18-5 (.720) [9-2 Jets, 9-3 Bears]
    Outscored Opponents: 81-10

    Overall, the Patriots in December of 2007 were still great. They scored 28.8 PPG and were giving up 17.8 PPG. As seen above though, we're on pace to beat that.
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    2007 - the year we played our home games in Boston Harbor.
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    I love this team more than the 2007 team because we've watched them grow before our eyes...but I have never been as confident heading into the playoffs as I was in 2007. I never once thought a BB team could lose with 2 weeks to prepare for a team we'd already beaten.
    No matter what this does, it will never be the 2007 team for me. I still think that was the best team in the history of the NFL.
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    This offense is so unpredictable. It's so interchangeable that it just can't be predicted. Defensive coordinators can't really gamer plan for it anymore.

    Brady has evolved into a killing machine beyond anything the NFL has ever known. 50 tds in 07 was pretty freaking awesome but you knew where that td was going 48% of the time. Now you have no way of knowing who is getting the ball and the TD's are coming with a more clock controlling, killing you slowly approach as opposed to the quick strike offense of 07.

    It's been fun to watch. :)
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    Bill O'Brien deserves a lot more credit in these parts than he's been getting. I've been highly critical of him in the past, but he has done an awesome job integrating this offense this year and exploiting the many options it has available to it. I also thought the Branch play call at the end of the 2nd quarter and the nonchalant attitude about the prior play was brilliant.
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    I have a funny feeling that Tate is going to stretch the field in the next game or certainly before the playoffs.

    Imagine how unpredictable we will become once that occurs.
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    2 things that favor this year's team:
    -Younger and deeper on defense. Though it may not make it better overall, it could be helpful when we need a late game stop (not going to get much more into that:mad:). But in '07 we had a starting ILB tandem of Seau-Bruschi in their final full season and I can't even remeber our backups aside from Pierre Woods(Gdamnit:mad:). Secondary(especially at safety) is much deeper as well assuming Wilhite ever gets back.

    - More consistent run game. I remember Maroney having 2 big games down the stretch in '07 regular season but the rest of his games were quite ineffective. The overall #'s I'm not sure if it's superior but ever since Mankins came back (aside from the game we got blown out in and didn't really have an opportunity to run the ball) we've gotten constently good production game to game. Even though Brady is carrying the offense the load doesn't seem as heavy.

    And yes, playing your best ball towards the end of the season is better than playing your best in the first half.
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    You are right. In 2007 each game was a bit worse than the one before. This year has been the opposite. What a rebuilding year this has been :D
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    i was never ever comfortable with the 07 team and always said that if they crap their pants in a game they are screwed.

    this offense is so balanced. Now when i see anything but the 2 TE set i get pissed off. that's all i want, every play. No one has a clue what they are running out of it.
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    Tate's catch in the fourth quarter today was nothing short of phenomonal. He just needs to be more reliable catching the ball.
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    Does anyone have a link to this? I missed it thanks to CBS switching to the Jets game early in the 3rd quarter.
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    Tate's catch was freakin' breathtaking. Hopefully, he's coming into his own as well.
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    Right now, this team is significantly better than the 2007 team. The 2007 team had a lot of weaknesses that was covered up by Brady and Moss playing pinball all the way down the field. The way this team has been playing the last month or so the only weakness they have is inexperience on defense and that has quickly been disapating the last few games.
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    :D

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    man...every week it's the same dyam "10 chars" mistake...it's TEN CHAIRS,DAMMIT!!!

    (now what does ten chairs mean anyway???):confused::confused::confused:
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    Posts are required to be at least 10 characters long. So if you just post "lol", you get a message telling you that it is too short. "10 chars" adds 7.
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    I'm not going to go about comparing this team to the 2007 team because, IMO, it does both squads an injustice. I will, however, say that the majority of teams that end up winning the Super Bowl begin to play their best ball in late November and into December. That's what we are doing right now. There's no reason why we shouldn't be favored to take the AFC.
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    Late in 2007, the Pats had to fight for wins, and had to catch a few breaks. The cold weather set in, and that offense slowed down considerably. Brady began to struggle (relatively speaking) against clearly inferior teams.

    Late in 2010, this team is putting teams away in the first half and cruising. The cold weather has set in, and this offense is showing how they're built for it. Brady has been f!@#$%^ otherworldly against clearly the best defenses in the NFL.

    It's impossible to avoid playing the "What if...?" game regarding Branch, dammit. Brady could be working on #6.
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    It's also fair to question whether the Pats were playing worse or the competition stepped up the closer the Pats got to 16-0.

    This December Pats are just another good team so they aren't necessarily getting the oppositions A+ effort every single play.
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    I don't really like comparing this team to the 2007 squad. In fact, I try to blank that Super Bowl out of my mind.

    I've been saying thsi for a while, though. This team is peaking at a much better time than the 2007 team, and has been reeling off some pretty impressive wins, especially these last 2 weeks. It's been exhiliarating watching this team grow and get better and better over the course of the season.
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    the 2007 pats were a finesse pass offense with a vet defense that IMO were the back bone of the team once the playoffs started and teams fond a way to stop Moss,


    the 2010 pats are a well balanced offense i alot like the 49ers of the 80's and 90's that use the short passing game all most like a long hand off to the RB. and a very young defense that is geting better every week and alredy has more INT's this year then that 2007 defense had
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    but thats the talent tate has... he would have another 3 long receptions to his name and another 100+ yards but he has dropped 3 long bombs from brady, this is basically his rookie year and he flashed good hands pre season. He was always meant to be our deep threat and we'll see what happens and if he can bring it all together going forward
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    TB talks about differences:





    Brady: This team nothing like 2007 - New England Patriots Blog - ESPN Boston
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    Much more reliable offense from a Pats fan perspective. The '07 offense was hit or miss, and the Moss plays down the field took too long to develop. Welker and Stallworth did balance that off to some degree, but the current offense looks like it will always have an answer.
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    Three drives of 80+ yards in the snow and wind yesterday. Even counting the long TD to Branch, it's a very patient offense under pressure.
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    That team in December was showing some warning signs. Their last 6 regular season games of 2007: 31-28, 27-24, 34-13, 20-10 (over a 4-12 team), 28-7 (over a 1-15 team), 38-35. I didn't see the red flags at the time, but they were struggling, winning, and were way too focused on getting the ball to Moss.

    Anything can happen though. Beyond the obvious that Brady is not replacable, an injury to McCourty, Wilfork, Mayo, or any of the starting O-lineman can be a huge blow, and we all know that a team can milk a single favorable matchup to huge advantage.

    Each week is a clean slate, so today has to be when we start out-working Green Bay.
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    That's what I'm worried about...
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