Discussion in 'PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum' started by DaBruinz, Dec 21, 2005.
Anyone have a link to a site that has the players who will be free agents next year?
I'm not sure if that's "all-all" but it's pretty close.
Givens, Brown, Davis and Dwight are all UFA.
I'd love to see us take a shot at Azumah and as much as white defensive backs annoy me, Archuleta wouldn't be a bad addition either.
Hey, hey, Jerry Azumah.
Saint-Peter Marian High product (Worcester).
My cousin is good friends with him from their SPM football days.
Thanks Pats1. Much appreciated.
Antonio Bryant hasn't distinguished himself, and the Browns have boatloads of money to spend, but the Patriots were said to have wanted Bryant in 2002 and settled for Deion Branch when the Cowboys took Bryant two picks ahead of the Patriots. Don't know if it's true but if Bryant makes it to free agency they may go after him. He's not as dependable catching as Givens but is more explosive. It's also interesting, looking at that draft, seeing that Andre Davis was taken 18 picks ahead of Branch.
Why do white d backs annoy you? Is your last name Farrakhan?
Positions that I think the Pats will look at during free agency:
RB: There are a few big names (Alexander, Foster, James) and a lot of #3 types. Pats may go here or the draft http://www.theredzone.org/2006/freeagents/showposition.asp?Position=RB
LB: This year is pretty deep in LB in both free agency and in the draft. Chatham and Davis are UFA. TBC and Chad Brown haven't panned out. The Pats could use some journeymen help behind McGinest, Vrabel, Bruschi, Colvin, Beisel and Claridge. http://www.theredzone.org/2006/freeagents/showposition.asp?Position=LB
OT: Gorin isn't very good. Ashworth is versatile and can play both LT and RT, but he's a free agent and may not be back if he gets a good offer from another team. http://www.theredzone.org/2006/freeagents/showposition.asp?Position=OT
OG: Stephen Neal is getting noticed in the league and could get offered a big Payday because the pickings are thin. http://www.theredzone.org/2006/freeagents/showposition.asp?Position=OG
WR: I'd love to see Givens back and there is some talent out there with Wayne, Morgan, Price, Burleson, Curtis, and Jurevicious. A deal similar to T.J. Houshmandzedah is in order. Pats will NEED to sign at least 2 WR besides drafting 1 or 2. http://www.theredzone.org/2006/freeagents/showposition.asp?Position=WR
Safety: Some big names here with Archuleta, Tank Williams, Will Demps, Lance Schulters and Keion Carpenter here. http://www.theredzone.org/2006/freeagents/showposition.asp?Position=S
CB: Biggest names here will be Ty Law and Charles Woodson. Law won't get the money he wants. I don't think Woodson will either. Jerry Azumah and Juran Boldan are #2/#3 type CBs who will be available. http://www.theredzone.org/2006/freeagents/showposition.asp?Position=CB
i looked through all the positions and here is my list of players i would like to get (with my favs with stars)
jerry azumah* (RFA)
leigh bodden* (RFA)
i see townsend and clements as the most likely possibilities
dont really love anyone here
bb loves peterson's athleticism, no great ilbs in the fa group this yr (possible cap casualties?)
kimo von oelhoffen
kyle vanden bosch
robert mathis* (RFA)
prob wont get anyone here, but if we do maybe brock or edwards-cheaper alternatives to the others
i would love to get davenport (even though he crapped in a grls dorm at umiami-my sisters alma mater), but he has some great upside, there are some great rbs, but im sure foster will stay in car, and edge and shaun if they leave will get more money than we can afford
qbs(we really need a backup here):
bb loved huard's practice ability, being the scout qb, could he return?
(i could see us going gorin and light next yr)
(i love both these guys, althouh i could see us go with mankins and hochstein as our starting two next yr, if neal wants a lot of money)
te(will let fauria go, so would like a number three here):
zach hilton (rfa)
antwaan randle el
arnaz battle (rfa)
brandon loyd (rfa)
joe jurivicius*(great in goal line)
kelley washington* (RFA) (would like to see the guy i once wanted the pats to draft)
kevin curtis (RFA)
nate burleson (RFA)
if we dont re-sign givens (which i think is a must, we should get one of these guys)
No. And I should mention Im white myself. It all stems from the Jason Sehorn novelty act that played itself out when he came into the league.
someone mentioned it after that college coach said black athletes are faster, that there arent many if any white corners in the nfl
i checked, there are ZERO!
Thats interesting. I wasn't aware of that. Not many in the college game either, certainly not on the DI level.
its weird too, cuz im white, and i was a star cornerback this fall for my flag football team that went all the way to the semis
It's a simple fact that many black athletes have, for genetic reasons, more "fast-twitch" muscles than most white athletes. This tends to give them greater speed and jumping ability. There is nothing racist in noticing this and it says nothing about the person's worth, overall athletic ability. intelligence, etc. Blacks with a heritage from certain parts of Africa also tend to be tall, and there's nothing politically incorrect to notice this.
I would say NO WAY on the following players:
Charles Woodson - He has the Poston brothers as his agents. Not gonna happen. Plus he's over-rated.
Julian Peterson - Another Poston Client... See above.
Now, of the defensive ends you mentioned, which one would mind coming in off the bench? And which ones are able to play OLB?
I definitely would like to bring Huard back.
I like many of your other ideas.
I had actually heard that this myth was a bunch of crap. I could care less either way really.
The actual reasons for it, I don't know - but given that there are zero starting white CB and very few starting white WR and RB says it all.
White DBs annoy you? I'm not sure what that means, but I can only assume that you're basing that on the memory of Shawn Mayer. Because John Lynch springs to mind as a pretty darn good DB that happens to be white.
Scott Frost was decent too........ :eat2:
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