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  1. RIP#40

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    It's good for the soul, time to come clean on things you were wrong about concerning this years Pats. I'll begin.

    1. I thought Willie would have nothing left in the tank this year.

    2. Was convinced that Ben Watson would be all pro this year.

    3. Thought Tyrone Poole would be an above average CB.

    4. I also thought David Terrell would revive his career here in NE.

    On the other side of the ledger, as soon as I read that #54 was PUP instead of IR, I KNEW he would be back this year.

    Happy New Year Ladies and Gents, let's hope the Pats make this winter an historic one.
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    Good thread.

    1) Thought moving Vrabel inside would be a big mistake. Wrongo.

    2) I thought Beisel would pick up the defense eventually and be a "Tedy Jr."

    3) I thought Tyrone Poole would make it through 4 whole games before getting his hangnail.

    4) I thought Corey would look better than he has. :(

    5) I thought we might finally shake this damn injury bug and we wouldn't have to hear the word "patchwork" regarding our defense again this year.

    6) I thought Asante would elevate his performance from last year and start sniffing the 'elite' catagory, instead he seemed to go backwards.

    7) I was SURE that we'd never see Troy Brown on defense again.

    8) I thought we'd finally get to see whatever it is that Belichick sees in Klecko this year.

    9) I thought once that Vrabes and Bruschi were on the inside we'd see Chad Brown flexing his pass-rushing muscle from the outside more.

    I think I could go on and on here. The only thing I had right was that David Terrell was a waste of space for the little time he was here.
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    I thought Matt Chatham would eventually start.
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    I thought...I thought...

    Oh, hell, you guys know me. I was optimistic all the way through. I never had doubts or total balloons.
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    My god, how could you be so wrong about so much?

    I'm never wrong about anything and I'm also a liar.
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    I kept reading those PMs you sent me trying to coach me up to actually sound like a knowledgeable football geek.




















    I want my money back.

    :D

    LIAR!! You were on the Terrell bandwaggon, and you know it! I'd search the forums to prove my wild accusations, but alas........:p
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    After losing to the Colts and being 4-4, I thought the season was a lost cause even if we still were very likely to win the division. I just didn't think that our defense was going to be able to pull things together. I'm glad that I was dead wrong about that.
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    1). Vrabel inside was a bad idea. I was wrong.
    2). Chad Brown would solidify the inside. Another falsehood.
    3). Patrick Pass is a below than average FB. I was proven wrong.
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    Wrong...
    1. Beisel would be a great asset - wrong
    2. Chad Scott a great addition - didn't happen
    3. Gus Scott a good SS - nope injured again
    4. Pessimistic about Pats winning out in playoffs - TBD
    5. Front 7 would kick ass this season - just in December so far
    6. That Navy kid was a stump - nope he was a good RB, cut only to save Klecko's useless ass
    7. We'd beat San Diego - way wrong; I was there (again)

    Things right...
    1. Said from day one that Bru would come back and start after PUP wait
    2. Pass an asset
    3. Klecko useless
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    1.) I thought the colts would be 0-16
    2.) I thought the steelers would be 0-16
    3.) I thought the jets would be 0-16
    4.) I thought the dolphins would be 0-16
    5.) I thought the bills would be 0-16
    6.) i thought the eagles would be 0-16
    7.) I thought the patriots would be 16-0!
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    Can't remember where I parked my car.

    Much better at remembering what I was right about but that wasn't the question, was it?

    Klecko-really thought he'd be an ILB

    Watson-thought he'd be more of an impact, but there were extenuating circumstances.

    Dillon--expected more yds, " " " " "

    Colvin--pleasant surprise

    Hobbs-- " "
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    I thought that the Political Discussion Forum was filled with nothing but anti-American sentiment, and that was what was filling me with so much frustration and anger ...

    It wasn't ...

    To anyone that I may have offended you have my apologies. I guess that dealing with Katrina (my personal loss statement was easy - 100%, plus a wiped out business - but it's coming back) finally got to me ... The PD forum just gave me something concrete to point at and blame ...

    But, as things continue to improve ... Well, I've settled down a bit ...

    So, again sorry for the way I acted ...



    Oh .... I was fully expecting a third 14-2 season ...
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    I thought Richard Seymour would hold out into the regular season.

    I thought David Terrell would be a stud wide receiver for us.
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    Didn't think I'd be the first one to say it but...

    I thought Starks would easily nail down a starting spot and be our best CB.
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    1. The Patriots would only need Ellis Hobbs exclusively on kickoff returns.
    2. Chad Brown, Monty Beisel, and Duane Starks wouldn't suck.
    3. David Terrell would make the team and successfully replace David Patten in the offense.
    4. The Patriots with their injuries, especially to Rodney Harrison, would have no way of recovering and would be a soft, one-and-done playoff version of the 2002 squad.
    5. That they wouldn't lose more than 4 games, despite the adversity heading into the season. Hopefully I'll be just 1 game off.
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    I, like many others, thought we were finito even if we won the division. I would never have predicted this turnaround.
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    Apologies if my list looks like other answers. I replied to the question without reading the whole thread. I would have to agree with that list, apart from Bru. I thought he was out. I thought we would go 14-2 and possibly better. Other mistakes? Expecting a lot more from Duane Starks (ouch!), Vince Wilfork (he is starting to improve but watching him get pushed around when rushing the passer was awful), forgetting that being a rookie co-ordinator is incredibly difficult in a way that most of us will never understand, ignoring the fact that our team is a very good one but also gets injuries, watching Nick Kazcur concede a sack on his first play from scrimmage and think "OMG" (I watched the tape later and realised that it was 2 against 1) and many, many more.
    I also never saw the Colts or Chargers blowouts coming, although did expect us to lose to the Colts. I also didn't expect the D to improve so much in the last three weeks to the point where we are contenders again.

    What did I get right? Well, erm, Josh Miller looks good, doesn't he? :D

    Oh, and OT, I know. But I was wrong about the Ashes Test Cricket Series. We (England) beat Australia (the best team in the world and one of the best ever) 2-1 in a five game series. I HAPPILY admit to being wrong about that one!
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    You have nothing to apologise for. I've said some stuff on that forum which was offensive and over the top. We all do. I don't always agree with your politics (and sometimes do, which may surprise you) but respect the way you post and your humour (which is quite developed for an American- that would be those years you spent here: :D). I am really sorry to hear about the business. Perhaps I really SHOULD look at a way of getting that Caffrey's over to you. Good luck in the New Year BTW.
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    'I thought we would dominate this year. I was wrong but so f'ng what. Im s-faced drunk right now, but Ill say it right now-- we'll be toastin No. 4 in less a little over a month. mark it the F down. Bring tha noise!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Worst mistakes

    I thought Bethel Johnson would be our deep threat number three receiver, Cedric Cobbs the Corey Dillon-in-waiting and Dan Klecko would be ... well, I don't know, just something useful.

    I thought that we would replace Charley and RAC without missing a beat.

    I thought that at least some of our free agent pickups would be starters.

    I thought we would fix our coverage on special teams.

    I thought that there was no way back for our defense after the KC game.

    Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa!
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    Ha! Great thread... there's a few members for whom I'll eagerly await their posts!

    The first one that comes to mind for me is my strong conviction that the scrambling but accurate throwing of Donovan McNabb was going to give the Pats a real challenge in the SB

    Instead his strategy seemed to be to vomit on the football, ensuring our DBs would be grossed out and avoid interception

    ...and while I was right in arguing against those who said our WR corps would be the best in the league top to bottom (terrell, sam, davis etc...) the outstanding tandem of Branch and Givens nearly make up for everyone else
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    In the middle of the season, I thought the Pats were going to finish 9-7.

    I thought Tampa Bay was going to cover the spread in last week's game.

    I thought Mangini/BB were stupid for sticking with the 3/4.

    I thought Wilfork was close to assuming "bust" status as a 3/4 nose.

    I hoped Watson would be more of a factor in the offense.

    I thought that the Pats would be ok without Seymour, if he decided to hold out indefinitely
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    That's another I'll join you in... they did ok missing him for a few games in the playoffs last year, but BOY, Seymour has shown how pivitol he is around here.
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    1. I thought Ty Law would not play, would go on PUP or would be ineffective if he did play somewhere. Instead he is going to the Prowbowl.

    2. I thought Monty Biesel would be good.

    3. I thought our goose was cooked after the KC game where not only did the defense play terrible, but Brady looked bad too.

    4. I thought Kevin Faulk didn't matter that much to the offense.

    Luckily I was way wrong about #3, and since Faulk is back playing for our playoff run, what I thought doesn't matter a hoot.

    Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah, Happy Kwanzaa and Happy New Year to every one!
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    I thought Watson would be a force to be reckoned with.

    I thought Wilfork would never be able to stop the run effectively,

    I thought Hobbs was short for hobbit.

    I thought Nem was right about drafting Ware until I saw Merriman singlehandedly destroy the Colts perfect season.
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    I thought:

    KC would be great.
    San Diego would be a bust, and we would beat them easily at home.
    Denver would be OK, buit not that good.
    Drew would find a way to screw up ... wait, that's coming true.
    Starks would be good.
    the O would be bearly unstoppable.
    Terrell would resuscitate his career.
    the Eagles would keep it going.
    Pfifer would come back
    Tedy would not come back.
    We would go to a 4-man line and it would be stronger than the Steel Curtain.
    Seattle would always be a fraud ... although it's still early.
    Arizona might finally get on track.

    I was right about a few things:

    Beisel would need at least a year to learn the system and the role.
    Colvin would show something.
    Wilfork would improve.
    Warren would be quietly good.
    Indy D would be much better.
    Patten would not be great in DC.
    The Lions would stink no matter how many early draft picks they get.
    Watson would show great promise.
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    Geez...where do I start.

    1) I had the Titans at 11-5 this season with Steve McNair putting up MVP numbers in Norm Chow's offense and Chris Brown rushing for 1500 yards.

    2) I had the Tim Rattay led 49ers winning the weak NFC West with a 9-7 record.

    3) I had the Broncos going 3-13 with the worst defense in the league.

    4) I had the Giants and the Redskins tying for dead last in the NFC East with a 5-11 record. I figured Eli to be a huge bust and that the Redskins would have no quarterback.

    5) I thought the Patriots #1 rival in the AFC would have been the Jets.


    Yea...I was wrong a lot.
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