Discussion in 'PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum' started by NG Pats Fan, Sep 26, 2011.
1994 vs Minnesota- W 26-20 OT
2003 @ Miami- W 19-13 OT
cool story bro ... tell it again ..
Care to explain how...?
Good to know.
One turning point in patsfans.com message board history.... the following post:
Wouldn't the Mo Lewis Jets game be a bigger turning point than either of the ones listed?
How about January 12 1986
New England 31
February 3, 2002
New England 20
St. Louis 17
Give it a rest. Belichick would have made the switch to Brady sooner or later, probably sooner. To call it a turning point in any positive sense is to exalt a moment wherein someone almost died. Since you mentioned Mo Lewis, it is almost certain you were talking about Bledsoe almost being killed. Let's not forget the man had internal bleeding from said hit.
Here's a proposal, how about we talk about it in terms of when Brady took over and forget the near-death of a player?
Someone is going to have to refresh my memory. Why is that a turning point??
Can I nominate this for thread of the year?
What, too soon?
I thought people would be all about this thread! I thought people would be so excited to talk about classics like I mentioned, that I didn't even bother to go into detail about the games. Damm, I was wrong. Am I the only one here who watches NFL Films 1994-2010 Patriots videos all the time? Love seeing the year to year patriot yearbooks, americas game, etc. Do people seriously forget the impact these games had?
I guess I will go into further detail about these games
I don't see how the Miami game in 03 was a turning point.....it was a big game but we went 14-2 and that's not even the game that started our win streak.
Last time I checked Drew's doing alright. He did not, in fact, die. Give it rest.
That game was a turning point for the franchise, period.
Right. Like I said, how about we talk about it in terms of Brady taking over and not glorify Mo Lewis (who last I checked, did not play a down a for the Patriots)?
What the hell happened in the 94 Vikings game? I was only 11 at the time.
Show me where I glorified Mo Lewis. Take your time, I'm hourly.
IIRC, Pats were behind 20-0 and Bledsoe rallied them to a tie and victory in overtime that started the Pats turnaround.
Hmmmmmm, I always thought the turning points were
July 22, 1979*
March 14, 1997*
That is all.
* - just randomly assigned days to add a cryptic element to this already dumb thread and to make all make all my patfans friends jump on google to find out what "what happened those days.
I agree with this 100%, even though Adam V said it wasn't true.
Agh, that 86 game. My favorite game of all time. Everyone knew the Pats would lose that game. I knew it, the fans knew it and the Dolphins knew it. I just wanted a good fight. The total beat-down the Pats put on the Dolphins that afternoon was fantastic. The stuff that dreams are made of.
I skipped my buddy's wedding for this game (just the church, we made it to the reception). It was a heck of a moment, not sure about turning point though.
They ended up divorced anyway, so no harm no foul....
I thought Brady was on his way to replacing Drew during that 01 season. That was the first year I had a satellite dish. Dish Network. They didn't have Sunday Ticket. But, you could choose what city you picked your local channels from. I chose Boston of course. Got all of the Pre-season and reg. season games. Brady moved the team in pre-season with the short passing game we were suited for. There were whispers he was a better fit for this team than Drew. Sean Jefferson was gone and Glenn was talking himself out of the door. We didn't have the weapons for a deep passing game. I'm not a Bledsoe hater by any means. But, we were 5-11 in 2000 and struggling out of the gate in 01 before the Mo Lewis hit. There was a pretty good chance Brady wins the job late in 01 or 02. No Super Bowl in 01. But, Tom Brady was going to qb at some point for this team.
I actually saw him once in college. They came to PSU his senior year and he rallied Michigan from a 10pt deficit in the last 7-8 minutes of a game in 99. That PSU defense had C. Brown, L. Arrington, B. Short, B. Jue and some other good players. He also led Michigan in a great comeback against Alabama in the Orange Bowl. I've always been in favor of drafting qb's in the mid-rounds like GB did with Brunell and Hasslebeck.
Bringing Parcell in and Robert Kraft buying the team were the two biggest moves. Without the Tuna, doubtful Belichick ever gets on Kraft's radar later.
We can't let this historic thread die! I have to know how it ends!!
I don't see how either of those games qualify as "turning points" in franchise history. The Minnesota game certainly would be a turning point if we looked ONLY at the 1994 season, but really it did not have a huge impact on the history of the Patriots franchise.
As others in this thread have pointed out, the #1 turning point in the history of this franchise was 10 years ago when Mo Lewis knocked Drew Bledsoe into the middle of next year. It was on that day the Patriots went from an abysmal 5-13 under Belichick to a team capable of being a dynasty.
And to those who say Belichick was going to replace Bledsoe with Brady anyway, fact is that it wasn't going to happen week 3 of the 2001 season. It would have happened much later - too late to salvage that season and bring New England's first Super Bowl championship.
Yes, and be quick about it please. It doesn't have to be a really long explaination a brief one will do perfectly fine.
Was that the Dolphins game where Olindo Mare missed like 2 field goals in overtime or something like that?
Without that decision we don't win in 01. Maybe we never win. Who knows.
It's always going to be the "Mo Lewis game" or the "game where Bledsoe was hurt". That's not celebrating an injury, but those are the memories of the game that really stand out.
By far the most important turning point was the day Kraft bought the franchise.
The second (far behind) was the day Tom Brady was made starting quarterback.
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