Discussion in 'PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum' started by DefenseRules, Oct 4, 2006.
Ahh man, I thought they indicated that if Hobbs needed surgery that he'd be out a bit longer than if he didn't have it. That sucks.
Wow, how did he end up on the street? Iwouma is a pretty celebrated special teams player, almost like a Mel Mitchell.
My Google has that as Chidi Iwuoma, late of the Pittsburgh Steelers. Any more info?
I was assuming that's why he was brought in. To fill Gay's spot on ST and as a depth guy in the DBackfield.
nuts i wanted carroll. Oh well, the Front office knows much more than me.
He is a highly touted ST's ace type. Known for being a gunner.
So in short yes he took over Gay's role of being a gunner on ST's.
Bubin on the other hand looks very promising:
Carroll was absolutely horrible.
If he were on this team you would have thought it was Duane Straks brother had you known nothing about the player and didnt know he was a first rounder.
I asked about Chidi Iwuoma on a Steelers board, not much as a DB very good ST guy, thay are pissed that we signed him. I asked for a comparison to Poteat as a DB. Will post other feedback.
He will definitely increase our all-important "weird name quotient," as well as the "%CBs under 5'10" metric.
I had heard that he was a more physical kind of corner that as good at press coverage, but I don't watch any green bay games, so i can't argue with your assessment - basically i figured he's the kind of low priced, has talent but hasn't translated it into on-field production yet kind of guy the pats like to take chances on.
Experience: 6 years
Born: February 19, 1978
Los Angeles, CA
Weight: 184 lbs.
2006 Scouting Report - Scouts Inc.
Grade: 59 | Key
Only chance if he had to play on defense would be to align him in the slot where his lack of height and size would not become an issue. Excellent special teams player. Has an excellent motor. Will insert and throw his body around. Solid speed on kickoff cover team - he is one of the first players down the field. Solid ability as a gunner with the punt team. Shows excellent quickness in his release and knows how to keep leverage on the outside hold up guy. He has no upside as a DC in this league.
Here's the info on Bubin:
Weight: 307 lbs.
Drafted: Year:2004 Round:5 Pick:27, Jaguars FANTASY
2006 Scouting Report - Scouts Inc.
Is a bit of a finesse blocker. Has adequate quickness in his pass pro set. Is more efficient in pass pro than he is as a run blocker. He shows good awareness in pass protection. Uses long arms to force a wide arc. Does a decent job with his hand-placement. Can make big strides in pass pro if he learns to play with better leverage and body control. Lacks leg strength and base. Also has trouble consistently hitting the moving target. Is a waist-bender in pass pro. Overall, Bubin has some upside because of his impressive frame and decent foot quickness.
I guess we'll have to look elsewhere for Pees's replacement then...
I agree. Adding a top gunner is fine addition.
WTF are you thinking? Nobody compares to Hank.
well, there goes Randy Moss's or Jerry Porter's spot.
Perhaps not. Spann can be moved back the the Practice Squad, and Bubin put on the Practice Squad. That would put the practice squad back to the full complement of eight. Unless, we are bringing Mruc back, we still have an open spot.
Thats how our defensive system works for corners. Small fast agile players. Whats the big deal?
He wouldn't be on this team if he couldn't play a little cornerback. Guys who have not done well on other teams come into the Belichick defensive secondary and have success (Chadd Scott, Hank Poteat). They know how to protect players and scheme for their strenghts.
I'm 6'0", 180-185 - maybe they should sign me; or maybe it's more important that our DBs have the DB/ST skills they need as opposed to a couple inches.
Height for DB's is one of the most overrated parts of football. Anyone remember 5-10 Asante Sameul outjump 6-5 Plaxico Burress in the 2004 playoffs. Like the Chrles Barkley anology, it's about using your body to gain position and timing your jump.
Which board. Just to know,
FWIW, Sean Bubin was mentioned in Patriot Reign as one of BB's draft targets...
But, it won't stop the "trade for" threads.
The feeling is, agressive as a CB not in the right spot, not as good as Poteat (who they don't think much of), faster than Hank. Many wish they had kept Chidi over S Morey as a St player.
Absolutely, and that's really all that matters...
I have felt such a void since we lost Shockmain Davis, but now we've got Chidi-Chidi Bang-Bang!
6'7" Man, if we keep growing our Oline like this (Ryan's 6'7" too) Brady is going to need to step on someone to see over the line!!
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