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  1. NePatriots

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    Good job. I don't believe in jinxes and all that (not since the Blue Jays couldn't three-peat even with me wearing my lucky hat) and I say we should go ahead and root for a perfect season.

    Do you think Brady or Moss or even Peyton or LT are great because they set their sights on above average? No, it's because they set their sights on being the best they can be. And for NE fans that means we're about a minute short of 19-0 and a Lombardi. Is it wrong to set our sights that high? No way.

    Good little article and thanks for helping another football-less day go by with a little zip.
     
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    Nice read and all, I don't want to sound like I didn't like it...however, at the top you said 'Why will this year be different?' With the exception of a few points (#19,17 and 15) these items were all in place last season. For example, you cite Tom Brady, which is all well and good. But he had one of the two or three best seasons ever at the QB position. Unless you believe he'll be even BETTER this season (which, as much as I love him, probably won't happen) then I don't see how citing Tom Brady helps support your claim that this team will do what last years team couldn't (namely, go undefeated).

    As I said, it was a nice read, but when you establish a theme for an article at the top you're setting an expectation for the audience. Maybe if you had just said "here are 19 reason why this team will go undefeated" instead of "Why will this year be different?"

    Hopefully that all makes sense.
     
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    Chad Jack, the health of Seymour, and the youth movement are other reasons valid too. I imagine when he says get Morris back he means have him healthy for the year. Some of the reasons are jsut status quo but some are reasons why this team could be better.

    A better list would be why the Pats wont be as good and the only two things I can think of are Asante and Newtons Law what goes up must come down (but it doesn't have to come down this year just that it will at some point)
     
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    Thanks for the critiques guys -- I agree that many of the things are status quo, but the status quo got us 18-1, we didn't need to change much.

    Health on both lines, morris back, emergence of CJackson, Youth at LB, Schedule, and fewer distractions seems like a few valid points anyway.

    Thanks for reading.
     
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    the biggest concern should be... what's with the choke job the coaching staff had in the superbowl and will it happen again?

    this should be the "Let's not let Brady get hammered in the Superbowl campaign"
     
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    is Neal back to full strength?
     
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    In the fewer distractions category, I think the undefeated season would also be less of a distaction this year than last year. You know, a been there, done that kind of thing.

    No mention of the kicking team? I guess when you're blowing out the competition you don't kick field goals or punt for that matter.

    The "NFL" link on item 19 goes to a Wes Welker football card on Amazon.com. I think there's a typo in there somewhere.
     
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    I was speaking on Light's injury/illness, but I'd assume Neal is at least somewhat better just due to time -- I haven't heard either way.
     
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    When you talk about the "youth movement", it would be nice to see some facts to support it. All the guys who were on the team last year are a year older this year. How about calculating the average age of the projected starters? Or the projected 53 man roster?
     
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    This passage jumped out at me

    I think you've got it backwards. Last season I think Randy Moss has kept defenses honest and that he opened things up for Welker and Gaffney, not the other way around (Jackson's yet to do anything of course and Watson and the TE position's health and strength were at issue last season as well).

    The opposite could hopefully be true this season though. One of my concerns is that we had the opportunity to do exactly what I think you're advocating here last season and McDaniels chose not to. Hopefully that changes this year.

    Jackson isn't so much replacing Stallworth because aside from early perception, Stallworth never had a major impact (well, aside from the Dallas game, which I initially took as a sign of things yet to come, but that never materialized).

    I think Defenses will hapilly give up the short pass to Welker in the hopes of preventing a deep pass to Moss - a bend but don't break scenario for them - though they will have to devote coverage to containing him. So I don't see Welker opening things up for Moss - just more that Welker gains from the focus defneses place on Moss.

    Whether Gaffney, Jackson and the other receivers will make defenses pay for their attention to Moss and Welker is the real question in my eyes. Jackson will have major opportunities to get deep with limited coverage while defenses focus on Moss. He could hurt them and thereby command more attention himself - thereby benefitting the rest of the receivers, including Moss, in particular on obvious deep passing situations.
     
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    Here is the quote from the article:
    "Most people would call the Patriots an old team, which is true. However, through some good acquisitions and draft picks, the Patriots are starting to develop a group of young players that work hard and learn from the veterans."

    I never said we were a young team, just that there was a small group of young leaders developing.
     
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    Is this a chicken/egg thing? To me it seems like 2 + 4 = 9 instead of 2 + 2 = 4 (that was for you Jet fans) Where the combo of Welker and Moss is worth more than the respective parts.
     
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    Yuh, but you put that under the heading "17. Youth Movement". That implies the team is getting younger; I stand by my post. Look dude, you asked for feedback.
     
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    I know you're remarking on THIS season and not last - so your prediction is as valid as anyone's. I hope you're right.

    But last season, while it wasn't solely a 2 man show, its clear that the passing game was largely focused on Welker and Moss. I was hoping - and continue to hope - for an even more balanced offense this season. That could well mean that Moss and Welker's numbers drop from last season, but the quality, if not quantity, of plays they are involved in will see improvements if Jackson, Gaffney, Watson and others are more involved in the passing game.
     
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    It doesn't have to imply anything if you actually read what it says though. I appreciate your feedback, I just didn't understand your critique. Thanks for clarifying.
     
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