Discussion in 'PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum' started by NEGoldenAge, Jun 17, 2010.
Should the league extend the regular season to 18 games?
Why, so we can see the respective practice squads duking it out in the Super Bowl? Injuries play a major enough role in the 16 game format, why prolong the abuse to the players bodies? Their careers are short enough arent they? I say find a way to make the preseason games more appealing if they want to generate more revenue.
I agree. It's pretty amazing that the first 10 responses to this are no, when someone interviewed dozens of poeple, with almost 100% saying yes.
No, for reasons which have been beaten into the ground in the other thread. Season ticket holders should be given discounts and other perks on preseason games.
16 games is enough already. The league might seem like their "enhance" regular season might be a good idea, not so for the wear and tear of every player each season. The league might see it as a great investment, but it dont work that way with players getting hurt, playing hurt and health risks after their career. Scrap the 18 games, Scrap 2 preseason games, and leave it at 16 games.
Here's what is going to happen:
The players will be bought out, eventually selling their support for the 18 game format.
The league will implement it in 2012.
It will be a huge success.
Everyone who opposed it today will love it and claim they supported it all along.
Just like almost 100% of people want an 18 game season now
It's funny how people oppose the change, but at the same time they don't like the current format. In this thread, we've seen suggestions to...
"find a way to make the preseason games more appealing" (uh, ok... any ideas on how to do that exactly?)
"Season ticket holders should be given discounts and other perks on preseason games." (Not gonna happen!)
"Scrap 2 preseason games" (Not gonna happen! Well, not without the 18 game regular season that is)
I don't really have strong feelings one way or the other. 16 is fine, but 18 games wouldn't bother me. I won't complain about more football. If it starts to get any higher than that it'll be getting ridiculous.
It's funny how people try to decieve to forward their agenda.
Actually, I didn't say 100% of people, I said 100% of STHers. I would be very interested in seeing the results of the same poll but only STHers can vote. I assure you they do not like the current format.
I'm not sure what's "funny" about it. The poll isn't about what's going to happen. It's about what should happen.
I agree. In another thread, I got some guy trying to tell everyone about some imaginary interview that never happened involving Jonathan Kraft and also how every owner in the NFL has said the same thing.
Except people clearly aren't happy with the current format, which speaks volumes as to the point I am trying to make.
You shouldn't try to speak for the group as a whole. I'm very happy with the current format. My suggestion was for the season ticket holders (who are but a portion of the "group") and a way of improving their experience. As someone who isn't a season ticket holder, the format is just fine by me.
No, it doesn't. It really doesn't.
You're equating unhappiness with one system and a specific desire for another. A lot of people who didn't like the old overtime rule don't want the new rule, because they realize that it absolutely blows, for example.
Yeah, it does. It really does.
No. The 16 game format is long enough as is. No need to monkey around and try to "fix" what is perfectly fine already.
Only way this would seem plausible is if they also expanded the roster a bit. Lets say they do change 2 preseason games to reg season games, it would seem the majority of the NFLPA (being lower tier guys) would be wise to go ape****, as it gives them less time to prove/learn/etc to claim a roster spot.
Let the record show that I think this is exactly what is going to happen.
PFT has said they are talking about creating a developmental league, which might make sense.
a minor league system of sorts may be a half decent idea. only this time they should probably try to keep it within the US border...
think the players association will be with it enough to realise that any bump in theyre percentage will be offset by a larger roster/2nd league? Where would this second league play? Seems this would be a problem with owners crying about stadium costs etc...
Well there's talk that they can get the UFL involved. But fact is that it really is only the borderline players that would use such a thing, and the NFL isn't going to base their decisions on what will make the borderline players happy.
The NFL already has the only developmental league they need; it's called the NCAA. Anything else is just figuring out who the 50-something-th players on your roster is going to be, so I don't think it's anything that is really making the league lose any sleep.
I actually played in a the last minor league system in the US back in the fall of 1969. The Atlantic Coast league had 9 teams who had official connections with NFL teams. Quincy (Pats) Hartford (Bills) Bridgeport (Jets) LI (Giants) Pottstown (Eagles) Harrisburg (Steelers) Richmond (Saints) and Roanoke (Redskins). It was pretty serious. There were guys who were making $100,000 a season, (King Cochran), while I was thrilled to making $250/wk (which was more per week than I was making teaching 8th grade)
I'm pretty sure that the other teams in the league had affiliations in other parts of the country as well. However by the terms of the merger, when it became final in 1970, or 71 the NFL teams agreed to cut ties with "minor league" clubs and the league pretty much folded soon after. Though post college football leagues have popped up from time to time. Nothing was ever effective until NFL Europe was started.
I was never sure as to exactly why the league decided not to support a true "minor league", I doubt that they will change their mind at this time.
As to the expanded schedule. I agree that it will lead to more injuries, but I also think greed by BOTH the players and owners make it inevitable. It is really the only way to create new revenue. I DO think the the Players will be able to get expanded rosters (say 58) if they agree to this. That would mean adding another 160 more jobs. I'm sure the coaches would appreciate it.
IMHO if the players were really smart, they'd recognize the fact that revenues can't expand forever. They'd be happy with a similar deal to what they have right now in terms of revenue. Players have NEVER been paid so much. And instead focus on more personal issues like better health care, better playing conditions, and better equipment. That way they can keep a 16 game schedule, and be in position to be able to "walk" away from the game at some point.....LITERALLY.
playing 18 games would be a joke we could see the first ever 12 win team not make the playoffs
i don't even like the new overtime rule for the playoffs roger goodell, is the worst commissioner. ever
thats what makes the NFL so great there are only a few games and everyone means so much and when it gets into overtime it's one play and over i don't wanna see the NFL turn into the NBA or MLB and how will rookies hold up comeing from were they only played 12 or 13 games now have to play 18 games will geting hit harder then they have ever been hit befor.
i just don't like it i say no to the 18 game season.
If it ain't broke don't fix it but sadly the NFL doesn't see it that way lately..
Wow, 50-7. This board alone is OVERWHELMINGLY in favor of keeping it the way it is.
I don't know exactly what the answer is, but an 18 game season is definitely not it. As Brady was quoted as saying in an article I read today, the season can already be 20 games if you get to the Super Bowl (assuming you play in the wild-card round instead of getting the bye.) Granted, only two teams get that far, and only 12 teams make the playoffs, but come on.
Scrap the two preseason games and at the end of the Regular Season have a bye week for all the playoff teams.
Then we could have two weeks of "Wild Card playoffs" instead of one with no byes.
NFL makes more money with the extra playoff week rather than minimal money for two preseason.
I think we had a thread about this a couple of years ago, and my suggesting was the same: Please do NOT change anything. But IF you are, give this a shot...
First off, increase the roster limits and ditch the IR = Season Over rule, make it more like baseball with the different limits (15 day, ect). If there are going to be more players needed, it would be better for them to learn the system they are playing in than getting signed off the street Tuesday and playing Sunday. That leads to poor football which leads to more injuries and by the end of the season they will be holding open tryouts for the fans at the game that day.
Give each team 2 bye weeks. And to make it fair (although I doubt the league would go for it) everyone's bye should be the same. Play 6 weeks of football, bye, six weeks, bye, and then finish the season. I know a Sunday without football would suck, but they aren't robots. We'll manage. Or, just have 30 team off on the bye and have a Sunday Night Special that week, then give those two team off the next week. Maybe one Sunday Nighter is an AFC Championship Rematch and the other is an NFC Rematch. Thanksgiving could stay the way it is. Have divisional games in the first 3rd and last 3rd of the season, not the middle. It looks like the league is going this way, anyways.
And finally, knock the international crap off. I don't want to see a game in London (Super Bowl included), China, Germany, Brazil, or Japan. Mexico City and certain parts of Canada are ok, if they care (I don't remember how the Mexico game went, but we haven't had one there since so...). But if Europe or Asia were really into it, they would start a league like the US did with MLS. I understand there is an audience for American Football in these places, but it isn't anything like the mania we have here in the States. Reopen NFL Europe or something...even more wear on the players bodies from the flying and time zone adjustments, plus the 2 extra regular season games is not cool.
My only issue with expanding the season is how will it affect scheduling. The league has adopted such a tidy scheduling format, how do you decide who plays who in the final two games?
Do you match up inter-conference teams based on record (Indy vs. NO, San Diego vs. Minnesota...all the way down to St. Louis vs. KC)?
Do you choose set inter-conference rivals like MLB does for their interleague play (NE vs. NYG, Philly vs. Pitt)?
Don't forget too that an expanded season is going to create an expanded list of dud games.
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