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    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/15/w...f1cd0dc40&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss

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    One tool of many. In Europe they aren't as shy about wiretapping the bad guys as we are.
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    Why do you say that? Is it just your intuition? Are you saying that about all of Europe? Surely there are differences between European countries, no?
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    There are differences, but they are quickly deteriorating. Europe is quickly becoming a single nation.
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    And that single nation is less strict about wiretapping than us?
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    Look at the French legal sys and the German and the English far more restrictive than ours. The English have stopped a number of terror plots through wiretapping. In France the premise of the legal system is that once charged you are guilty until proven innocent. In Germany you can be prosecuted for being a holocaust denier, that would be unthinkable here..
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    See the following link:

    http://www.privacy.org/pi/issues/tapping/

    Lookibng at teh storiesd it appears that certain government agencies can wire tap I see no mention of a court's role in that process (in GB)
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    Where do you get this crazy stuff??? In France there is a presumption of innocense just like in the US.

    From France's La DĂ©claration des droits de l'Homme et du citoyen (Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen), Article 9:
    From France's Code of Criminal Procedure:
    People really have some ass-backwards ideas of what France is like. Fogbuster claims that mentioning God in public leads to legal sanctions, and all of a sudden their criminal justice system has regressed a few centuries?
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    Thought I remembered it from Histroy class. Must have been mistaken.
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    The country the Muslim Radical would most like to destroy=AMERICA.

    Death To America, God Willing Death To America, Praise Allah, these scum have a problem though, they can't seem to bring their unholy death to America, that problem is a man, George Bush, he won't let the filthy smelly f-cking scabby swine bring their Religious Sh!t Death to our people.

    America has it's own Al Quidea, (Murtha/Kennedy/Pelosi/Reid/Black Caucus and Hollywood)

    The Radical Murdering Muslim would sell their childrens souls to be able to attack us again, WHY HAVEN'T THEY?
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    You're an idiot. You might hate Pelosi (and Lord knows you hate blacks), but Al Queda?
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    Oh that I don't know. I was just making light of the direction soveriegnty in Europe is heading. I have heard that England has far stricter, in favor of law enforcement that is, laws and regs regarding terrorism, or terrorist suspects.
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    England has far less protection of civil liberties than the US, that's true. Mainly that's on account of them not having a written constitution. But I don't usually consider the UK part of Europe as far as law and legal tradition goes. The most glaring difference is that the UK is a common law country, unlike any part of mainland Europe.

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