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  1. patchick

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    Nfldraftscout has some nifty combine tables up, including 10- and 20-yard split numbers. A few things that leapt out at me:

    - David Harris looks better and better, with terrific splits of 1.53/2.59. For reference, not only does that put him at the top of this year's ILB group, but it also beats every LB in last year's combine.


    - Numbers to ponder:
    Zak Deossie 2007
    6-5, 250 4.58 2.66 1.56 26 34 1/2 10'2" 4.22 6.89

    Manny Lawson 2006
    6-5, 241 4.43 2.62 1.55 23 39 1/2 10'4" 4.21 6.90


    - WR Aundrae Allison is impressively explosive with a 1.43 10-yard split, better than any other WR this year or last. In fact, only one other player at any position matched that time either year....would you believe, Utah SS Eric Weddle.


    - Paul Soliai, an NT prospect, ran 10 in 1.63 seconds...at 344 lbs!
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    Stew Bradley's split was nice too. Harris, Bradley, and DeOssie are looking better and better.
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    I have to say, this crop of potential ILBs looks promising.
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    This of course will move them all up. Harris will now be late first to top of the second round, Bradley mid second to mid third and DeOssie 3rd or 4th.

    If the Pats ever took 3 LBs on day one after not taking any in the SP/BB years that would cause some serious buzz. I don't see it happening but we are talking about BB/SP so expect the unexpected. :bricks:
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    If I could ask a huge favor from someone who's subscribed...Fair warning that it's not incredibly interesting work. Would you mind re-posting the following list with the 10 and 20 splits? I can't purchase the service from my work computer, and I never have time anymore to log on at home. It will be a great help to me as I continue in my draft research. Thanks to whomever, and I owe you.

    RBs
    Brian Leonard
    Antonio Pittman
    Darius Walker
    Dwayne Wright
    DeShawn Wynn
    Kolby Smith
    Brandon Jackson
    Kenneth Darby
    Thomas Clayton
    Eldra Buckley

    WRs
    Dwayne Bowe
    Robert Meachem
    Craig Davis
    Anthony Gonzalez
    Johnnie Lee Higgins
    Chansi Stuckey
    David Clowney
    Jarrett Hicks
    Mike Walker
    Steve Breaston
    Jacoby Jones
    Marquay McDaniel
    Legedu Naanee

    TEs
    Zach Miller
    Ben Patrick
    Clark Harris
    Joe Newton
    Kevin Boss
    Jonny Harline
    Michael Allan

    Cs
    Ryan Kalil
    Kyle Young
    Dan Mozes
    Roman Fry

    Gs
    Ben Grubbs
    Andy Alleman

    OLB
    Anthony Spencer
    Victor Abiamiri
    Dan Bazuin
    Prescott Burgess
    Larry Birdine


    ILB
    Patrick Willis
    Jon Abbate
    Quincy Culberson
    Justin Hickman
    Blair Phillips
    Desmond Bishop
    Marvin Mitchell

    CB
    Daymeion Hughes
    Aaron Ross
    Chris Houston
    Jonathan Wade
    Josh Wilson
    Marcus McCauley
    David Irons
    Reggie Lewis
    Michael Coe

    FS
    Josh Gattis
    Fred Bennett
    Tanard Jackson
    C.J. Wilson
    Kevin Payne
    John Wendling
    Brandon Sharp
    C.J. Gaddis
    Gerald Alexander
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    1010101010
    FYI the two fastest 10 yd splits:
    Aundrae Allison 2.46 1.43
    Laurent Robinson 2.50 1.46
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    Meachem looks fastest in the second ten yards after a fairly pedestrian first ten. That bodes well for fly patterns - not sure if it says anything about coming out of cuts.
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    He has pedestrian change of direction and acceleration numbers: 4.31 ss, 6.97 3-cone. Looks like he's pretty much a straight line burner.
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    Re: WR Aundrae Allison

    I really liked this kid before the Combine, as a stretch-the-field sleeper pick. Knew he had the speed and playmaking ability, but was curious about his ability to get off the mark. His Combine numbers now prove he has the ability to get open from the get-go. He's the complete package as a downfield threat, and has the hands and sideline ability to match. Obviously, he has some weaknesses, but IMO they're limited.

    IMO, as a potential 3rd round pick, he's in the exact area I'd like to invest on another WR. Not too high or low, but has enough talent to eek into day one, and hopefully less developmental time than some day two WRs. His upside is excellent, and seems to be very coachable. Normally, I wouldn't consider anyone who reportedly takes plays off, but in this instance, from what I've read from his head coach and position coach -- that's not the case. If there are any legitimate concerns, all doubts will be removed by his HC Skip Holtz, the son of one of Belichick's best friends in football - Lou Holtz.

    Keep an eye on him as a potential sleeper pick for the Pats -- I think he's worthy.
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    Re: WR Aundrae Allison

    I wish we had some change of direction numbers on him, though he seemed to do well at the Senior Bowl.
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    Re: WR Aundrae Allison

    He has the package as an athelete, very fast and smooth. I saw him in a couple of games and he looked, how should we say it "tentative", big time alligator arms. I think we can do better than him especially with the depth in this years class.

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    After the combine the WR's that really catch my eye, especially because both are quick twitch types that BB seems to prefer are Smith and Hill. Just from watching games on TV, you could tell that Hill was more quick than fast, but now after he ran the 40, hehas proven to me he does have some stretch the field capabilities.

    Smith reminds me of Dioen Branch turned gang banger.
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    Thanks Box. Keep it up, and I'm going to name the bridge we're currently building after you.
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    A bridge eh...what's my cut of the toll?
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    Yeah, I finally took both Frys (and both Fryes) off my board because I kept confusing them. The fabulous Jennings quadruplets from last year were far superior.

    I apologize for the confusion. A typo on my part. I meant to say "...a bridge table we're currently building...."
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    I don't even play Old Maid, let alone Bridge!
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    Zach Miller 2.81 1.68

    Do either of you have access to Graham and Watson's splits?

    That would be interesting.
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    Watson 2.70 1.66

    Thomas 2.78 1.61

    Mills 2.74 1.60

    The only potential measurable that stands out...both Watson and Thomas were near the top in 10 split and vertical.
    Last edited: Mar 2, 2007
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    So is this a folding table?
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    Thanks, I can't see us drafting him since he's not a good blocker either.
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