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  1. Holy Diver

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    I was about to start a thread on this, too. Been following it the past hour because girl I'm dating lives there. Conflicting reports from the beginning -- still the case, actually. I guess that's no surprise with this kind of attack, and the real time of the Internet.
     
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    Reports are now that she's still alive. Let's hope that's true.

    Edit: Not to say that it isn't significant that others died; it is. A horrible thing indeed.
     
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    Its a mile from my in-laws. Scary.


    STF is right, reports are she is in surgery. They have the shooter, 21 year old male.
     
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    Why wait until you get all the facts to jump to a conclusion? It could as easily be this guy ( a former Democratic supporter) that showed up in your second link....
    Daily Kos: State of the Nation


    >>>>>My CongressWOMAN voted against Nancy Pelosi! And is now DEAD to me!
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    by BoyBlue
    Thu Jan 06, 2011 at 11:07:17 AM PST

    I am from the Tucson area and live in Congresswoman, Gabrielle Giffords' district. I worked like a dog for her elections when she was in the Arizona House, surrounded by rightwing nutcases.<<<<<<
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    Doesn't exactly sound like a Palin supporter.
     
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    Something else

    The Congresswoman is known for cracking down on illegal immigration, urging deployment of the National Guard and new technology to protect the Arizona border.

    Read more: US Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords shot in Arizona, multiple wounded
     
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    Pfphilly,

    Agreed, we don't know all of the facts...

    We know a dude shot a congresswoman who was on Palin's target list. We know there are fatalities. We know they have the shooter. This shouldn't take long. My guess is an angry supporter is on the suspect list. But so is a person who follows FOX news and Palin's target list.

    Time will tell
     
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    Sickening. Americans lost today, regardless of the political stance to which you hold fast.

    I'm ashamed of many on the left and the right today. A congresswoman was shot (and possibly killed) and people are gleefully pointing fingers all over the place, trying to get a one up in "the political game". Everyone's waiting for news reports, hoping that it's not someone on their side of the political spectrum who did it, so they can point the finger and claim moral victory. To people who are doing that? Go **** yourself.
     
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    I appreciate what you are attempting to say, but honestly there is a problem with leadership, politicians, the media and the red meat they toss to the dangerous undereducated lemmings. Putting targets on candidates is dangerous! Calling for 2nd amendment remedies is dangerous! When the truth comes out, those who pushed, nudged and misinformed this shooter will wash their hands of this.


    And it will happen again.


    This isn't me attempting a " moral victory" there is nothing victorious about terrorism.
     
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    So some how this is Sarah Palin's fault? :ugh:


    Anyhow, I hope she pulls through. It doesn't sound to good. A shot to the head is what they are saying. I really hope they fry the dude that did this.
     
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    Giffords's Tuscon constituency office was vandalised last March after she voted in favour of Barack Obama's controversial health bill, which has been bitterly opposed by the American right. Giffords had been named as a political campaign target for conservatives in November's elections by former Alaskan governor Sarah Palin for her strong support of Obama's reforms. Palin had published a "target map" on her website using images of gun sights to identify 20 House Democrats, including Giffords, for backing the new health care law.
     
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    This is the kind of case where I have no problem with the death penalty. There's (apparently) no question who did it, and the victim was a member of the nation's leadership (regardless of what we might think of that leadership) -- that needs to be addressed as harshly as possible, regardless of the shooter's motivations.

    (Plus, there are multiple victims, though it's unclear what everybody's status is, and one may also have been a federal judge. So on multiple levels this passes the pretty high threshold that I personally need to advocate the death penalty.)
     
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    Having flash backs to when Kennedy and Regan were shot, same sick feeling.
     
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    The doctor is saying she is out of surgery and a child is dead.
     
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    Latest reports I've seen are that she's out of surgery, alive and in critical condition.

    Shooter identified. Some links to youtube videos, and from those couple things, sounds (not surprisingly) like he's nuts.
     
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    What an idiotic and knee jerking OP from a guy that's normally very calm and collected as well as a critical thinker. From the sounds of it, this guy just snapped. He also shot a conservative judge and a child.
     
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    Knee jerk?

    her opponent held a "shoot a fully automatic m16" event to eliminate her.

    Giffords Opponent, Jesse Kelly, Held June Event to “Shoot a Fully Automatic M16″ to “Get on Target” and “Remove Gabrielle Giffords” | Firedoglake


    Palin's take back the 20 website has been scrubbed

    http://www.takebackthe20.com/



    What are the odds?
     
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    It's probably been taken down in anticipation by knee-jerk reactions such as the one in the OP. It was even worse WHEN you did it, being that the news was brand new and we knew even less than we do now. Like I said, from the sounds of it, it sounds like this guy just snapped. Shot a conservative judge and a kid too. Did Sarah Palin advocate that? :rolleyes:
     
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    Just heard this guys favorite books were the Communist Manifesto and Mein Kamph. Sick leftie bastards.
     
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    Agreed.
    There are plenty of wackos out there, from Son of Sam who took messages from his dog to John Hinckley who thought a teenage actress, Jodie Foster was talking to him. There are stalkers like the one who killed Rebecca Schaffer and others too many to name.
    Were the Beatles responsible for Charles Manson who wrote Helter Skelter at a crime scene???
    Were Twinkies responsible for Dan White killing Harvey Milk??
    You can blame it on anything you want. Doesn't make it true.
     
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