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  1. Terry Glenn is a cowgirl

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    Last night was a strange event. I was looking in the night sky -- trying to find the rare falling star.

    Instead of finding the fallen star...I instead see MANY "stars" in the sky, moving west at the same time! WTF????

    I tried to Google it all last night and today...but no such luck.

    Am I the only one who seen this (other than my family?)?

    Why would there be approx. 100 jets in the air all moving west?

    Obviously, I couldn't sleep for the rest of the night. What is happening?

    This really isn't a political question...but then again -- it might very well be related to it.

    If these jets were heading west...they would be in the direction of southern tip of Russia, or the Asian area.

    SOMETHING is happening. I have no idea what exactly...but SOMETHING...IS...HAPPENING.

    ANybody else see strange, odd, activity in the sky?
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    Where are you? What state?
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  7. Terry Glenn is a cowgirl

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    I never said anything about any UFO's. Did I?

    The "activity" was moving all about the same speed. I never seen a UFO (at least I think so)...

    No alien probed me.

    Just seen alot of "activity" in the air last night.

    Maybe the jets were seeding the clouds...this is a probabale cause.

    I live in Montana. One of the border states.

    Strange stuff indeed.

    ...and I am NOT making this up. Although I wish I have.
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    WHATEVER IT IS IT'S BUSH'S FAULT :rocker:
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    The presidents are just figureheads. They are just the "spokesmen" for what is already planned out. Pastors (not masters) of muppets/puppets if you will.


    Here is what it most likely is, just found the link:


    Is the U.S. creating cloud cover?
    Believers contend feds behind 'global dimming'

    Idaho State Journal | September 28, 2005

    They call it Project Cloverleaf. At night, giant
    planes with no pilots roam the sky over the U.S.
    Instead of a mere vapor trail, they are filling the
    sky with unknown chemicals designed to darken the earth.

    To thousands of people around the U.S., this is not a
    sci-fi movie or even a conspiracy theory; it is real.

    Scott Stevens is a believer.

    Stevens, a meteorologist and weatherman with News
    Channel 6 in Pocatello, said the phenomenon known as
    "global dimming" could be a clandestine operation by
    the government to slow the effects of global warming.

    While global dimming is a contentious scientific
    issue, some scientists think thicker cloud cover may
    be reducing the amount of sunlight reaching the earth.

    Stevens, who also runs the Web site
    www.weatherwars.info, said he believes the cloud cover
    is generated by airplanes with chemical substances in
    their fuel to increase and extend the effects of vapor
    trails. Stevens has appeared on several national radio
    shows, including "Coast to Coast AM," in an effort to
    educate the public about chemtrails.
    RELATED:
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    Scientists Dispute Hurricane Blaster Idea

    Weather Modification Research & Technology Act Of 2005

    Forecaster leaves job to pursue weather theories

    Washington's New World Order Weapons Can Trigger
    Climate Change

    Mysterious 'Ball Of Fire' Seen In Fla. Skies

    Weather Modification & The Tsumami Called Katrina

    Bill introduced to restrict weather control

    NASA





    "It's called 'Project Cloverleaf' and it is the
    primary reason the U.S. has not signed the Kyoto
    accord, because we already launched a program to try
    to counteract the CO2 problem and the methane
    problem," Stevens said. "And that is through
    distribution of aerosol."

    Science has established that vapor trails left by jets
    can form into clouds, actually growing and spreading.
    Some scientists think vapor trails might be part of a
    decrease in sunlight reaching the earth, but they do
    not believe Project Cloverleaf exists.



    While scientists may be skeptical, people around the
    world have latched onto the unconventional idea. A
    Google search of "project cloverleaf" brings up about
    50,000 hits, many of them conspiracy theory Web sites.
    A search of "chemtrail" gets about 280,000 hits.

    Stevens said it is perfectly logical that jets would
    produce contrails and said it would be unusual if they
    did not.

    "The question is persistence," he said. "What happens
    is eight days out of ten, conditions are favorable so
    that when a plane flies, the contrails persist. I
    would guess that normal is closer to 3.5 to five days.
    That means a rough guess is that there is a doubling
    in the number of days where these contrails can last."

    Stevens said many different types of aircraft are
    spreading the aerosol as part of Project Cloverleaf.



    "I think you have the whole range. I think you have
    some aircraft that have clean fuel. I think you have
    some aircraft that have some additive within the fuel
    to create additional cloud cover," Stevens said. "And
    then you have the black ops planes, and that is all
    they do. There is the regular condensation trail, and
    then everything else is for the delivery of aerosols."

    Patrick Minnus, a senior research scientist at NASA's
    Langley Research Center, said that contrails currently
    account for roughly 3 percent of the cloud cover over
    the U.S.

    Minnus said cloud cover generated by airplanes
    increased by about 3 percent between 1971 and 1995,
    but he attributed the increase to additional air
    traffic, not to a clandestine operation by the
    government.

    "I don't understand it," Minnus said. "Its just one of
    those conspiracy theories. No amount of logic can
    debunk it."

    The theory may have been hatched after Minnus, David
    Young and Donald Garber, all researchers and NASA's
    Langley research center, presented a paper called
    "Transformation of Contrails into Cirrus during
    Subsonic Clouds and Contrails Effects Special Study,"
    Minnus said.

    In the study, the researchers used a DC-8 airplane to
    fly an oval pattern off the coast of Texas.

    "We just watched the contrail blossom and turn into a
    huge cirrus cloud," Minnus said.

    When they presented the paper in 1998, the Project
    Cloverleaf theory began to spring up, he said, adding
    that he did not know if it was coincidence or not.

    Minnus said that contrails are formed in air below -39
    Celsius when the air is supersaturated with ice.

    Due to the physical structure of ice, the humidity
    level actually has to be higher, about 150 percent
    humidity level, than it would be for the air to be
    supersaturated with water.

    "The exhaust (jet engine) injects a lot of water into
    the air," Minnus said.

    "The water droplets immediately freeze and you wind up
    with a contrail."

    Minnus said once the contrail is formed in
    supersaturated air, larger ice particles become nuclei
    and begin to grow, collecting other ice particles from
    the surrounding air.

    As the particles get heavier, they begin to fall out
    of the contrail, spreading it vertically, wind shear
    spreads the contrail horizontally as it continues to
    collect ice from the atmosphere.

    Minnus said in a 1998 paper called "Spreading and
    Growth of Contrails in a Sheared Environment," that
    aged contrails can form into clouds almost
    unidentifiable from natural cirrus clouds.

    "Since these persistent contrails have long lifetimes
    and grow to cover large areas, they have the greatest
    potential for affecting regional or global climate,"
    Minnus said in the paper.

    Stevens' idea of weather modification by the
    government may seem far-fetched to climate scientists.

    But other scientists have considered airplane
    contrails as a means of counteracting global warming.

    A paper published by the National Academy of Sciences
    in 1992, "Policy Implications of Greenhouse Warming:
    Mitigation, Adaptation, and the Science Base,"
    speculates that commercial airliners could use
    contrails or spread dust to combat global warming.

    In the geoengineering section of the study (p.459),
    the paper states, "Cloud stimulation by provision of
    cloud condensation nuclei appears to be a feasible and
    low-cost option capable of being used to mitigate any
    quantity of CO2 equivalent per year."

    The paper also says, "These possibilities appear
    feasible, economical and capable of mitigating the
    effect of as much CO2 equivalent per year as we care
    to pay for ... Such systems could probably be put into
    full effect within a year or two of a decision to do
    so, and mitigation effects would begin immediately."

    Ellsworth Dutton, an NOAA research meteorologist based
    in Boulder, Colorado, said there is not only no
    Project Cloverleaf, there is no global dimming.

    "The last published data set that showed a downward
    trend (in solar radiation reaching the earth's
    surface) was published in 1990," he said.

    Dutton said there was a curious decrease in service
    radiation during the 1970s and 1980s but that trend
    appeared to have ended.

    Stevens says global dimming is not only occurring, but
    is having an effect.

    "We have seen a real result because we have not seen
    the warming that should have accompanied the increased
    output from the sun, carbon dioxide, the methane. We
    have not seen the evaporation off the oceans that
    should have accompanied the warmth."

    Stevens has no doubt about the feasibility of keeping
    the general population in the dark while operation a
    huge weather manipulation project.

    "There is nothing that isn't possible. The only thing
    that gets in your way is your will. If you have
    thousands of scientists, an unlimited budget and
    political powers telling you to do something, it gets
    done," Stevens said, adding that people need to be
    alert to changes.

    "There have been some manipulations of the environment
    for a rather lengthy period of time. We are coming up
    on thirty years that weather engineering has been
    attempted, if not accomplished. It is indeed within
    forty years where we begin to see this slope of
    warming accelerating," Stevens said. "How much of that
    is mankind and how much is natural?"
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    That is creepy. You should call your Congressperson and tell them what you saw. I never heard of Operation Cloverleaf, but Google shows me a lot of people have. It sounds like paranoid nonsense, but that observation does nothing to explain what you saw.
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    Cowgirl,
    Good work, you led us right into that one, "oh look, up in the sky" "oh dear God, what can it be" then BANG, "BUSH IS NOW POLLUTING THE SKY AT NIGHT" :singing: :bricks: :singing:
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    If I was a whacko...don't you think that I would be a fan of...the Cowboys...or the Stealers...or above all else...the Colts? Hmmmm...I am a fellow Patriot fan.

    Anyhow, I am NOT making this tihs up. I am dead sober serious. I am not paranoid.

    All I seen was what I explained in the original post. Alot of "activity" on the night of 02/08/2006. Around 7:30PM. Went outside to take a walk, and do some star gazing. Instead of the falling stars...I seen something entirely different. 100% serious.

    I would inform my congressman, but he would just put my name on the "aware" list. Then they would just say "Go back to sleep."
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    Good move.
    Patters was just trying to get you on the NSA 'observation' list. Next step, Gitmo.
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    As a man with a no sh!t Top Secret/sci clearance we are truly trying to darken our portion of the earth so that we can enlighten the rest of it. You retarded quack go join a conspiracy on another board. I worked or could say was punished to this place many times between 2001 and 2004 and let me tell you it is the spookiest place on the planet. Aliens walking all over the place selling you things. Men In black had nothing on this TS compound!

    http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/usa/c3i/raven_rock.htm
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    ^^^^ignorance is bliss...right????

    Alright, do a Google search on [the h.a.a.r.p. machine]. More "wacko" alerts will go wailing away.

    What, do you people only sleep walk to the "propaganda news"???? Wake up!!!!

    Alot of tihs is happening around us. I don't claim to know everything...but at least I am semi-aware of the stuff.
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    100% sober like I said before.

    Maybe I should have just...lied about it. "Everything is just aok."

    Waking the herd can create after shocks.
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    Look under your bed tonight before you turn the light out, there may be a CIA agent with a Tape Recorder under there.

    Lots of liberals now ride bikes [Gore Pollution] the CIA & FBI now install BUGS under Bike Seats.

    Whatever happend to Al Franken & Jeanne Garafooloa, he said he was going to be the Liberals Limbaugh?

    Get Bush-Get Bush-Get Bush-Get Bush.

    This is Al Franken :bricks:

    This is Jeanne Garafoola :bricks:

    This is Limbaugh :singing:

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