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My second post: "I knew that was coming when i posted that. Winning the SB is a team accomplishment. Brady would have zero rings if he had the '01, '03, and '04 Colts defenses. Brady or Manning do not tackle any one for a living." I said i knew that was coming because he mentioned peyton...

Why doesn't this come into play for Peyton playing bad in the games vs the pats? He chokes when he throws in howling winds at foxboro, yet at home he chokes cause he's in a Dome. forget the fact that corners jam receivers in the dome and in the bad weather. Forget the fact teams may blitz or try...

"If you're arguing that ideal weather doesn't greatly benefit a QB, you need to stop watching football altogether." My God, i said the defense has an equal opportunity to stop them when they don't have to play in the snow, ice, rain ,etc. Not that ideal weather doesn't benefit the chance that...

Show me where i made an excuse. My point wasn't that Manning lost cause of the defense but Brady wouldn't have sniffed the playoffs with them. Please be objective and see that that was my point not making excuses for Peyton. That was always my point and that Brady would probably play...

Do you not see how that benefits the defense as well, there is no weather they have to watch out for either. Forget the fact it is well known that we run the same routes, stop them from executing what they do it's that easy. Isn't that what football is about. Needing the snow and bad weather to...

I guess the sarcasm smiley didn't show up on your computer. Being a troll is trashing a great QB who won the MVP 3 times yet he's a bust. no wind, ice, and snow, rain favors defense also. Cause we're built to score points doesn't take away from that, a great defense had a good and equal chance...

Wow how did that go over your head and make you miss the point. Btw, Manning was #1 and is the biggest bust of all time. This is homerism at it's best.

Name the great defenses then besides '05 and '07. Saying it's funny isn't actually an argument for your position it shows you don't have anything. The double standards keep rolling too. Manning loses it doesn't matter if he has a bad or good day in the playoffs, he chokes. They win one SB and...

Yup he did it all by himself that's why he was pick #199 in the draft cause of his greatness.

You know what peyton would have done if he didn't have to study defenses and relied on a camera guy and coach in his helmet telling him what to do. :rolleyes: Forget the fact domes don't give up TD's defenses do.

My point still stands that you didn't read the whole thread, pointing out one post doesn't equal the whole thread. A child would even know that. Now tell me why Brady would be a winner with the other defenses i named that no one has answered. Funny how my initial point was that Brady wouldn't...

What did Brady win before he got in a sum off all parts system? Funny how he became great when he got in the system and they kept chugging along when he was gone. Cassell says we don't need you Tom

Sorry that you didn't read the whole thread when i said the only good defenses were the 05' and 07 defenses. This is what happens when you don't see the whole discussion and want to be smart by posting stuff like this.

Why didn't he choke the whole game? I can hear it now: "cause SD sucked, but they stopped sucking the last few drives." This board is one big conspiracy theory. Jets didn't give their all cause they hate the pats, blame the commish. Colts won cause polian turned up the heat. We cheated and got...

I answered your question 3 times now. What numbers are you talking about? Win/loss record? TD's to INT's? There are so many presuppositions and glaring double standards in this post i don't know where to begin to be honest. It's funny now how the Colts defense had been good the last few...

Not all of it is his fault, yes Manning had bad games in the playoffs. Yet when he has good games (playoffs or regular season) it always a conspiracy behind on this board when i look at comments during Colts games. Colts down 14 to jags colts suck. They come back it's the refs or the jags suck...

Don't put words in my mouth, i never said the defense did it all and Brady deserve a lot of credit. Brady had a defense that is always overlooked and the praise always went to Brady alone when his defense deserves props. Brady can be cool in the pocket when he knows he doesn't have to score...

You know and i know without Manning the Colts don't even sniff a 3-4 record. Our winning streak is 9 and your MVP candidate Rivers won his team 8 games with a monster offense. Ryan helped turner get the yards he get, who's helping Manning? The Colts offense has had the least possessions of...

Name one besides the '05 defense. If pats fans can complain about the team having the flu in '06, well last year we had no freeney, mathis was coming off an injury and bob sanders got hurt in the game last year in the playoffs.

Hello i said i was going by the years the pats won the super bowl. No matter how good he is brady wouldn't have made the playoffs with the colts defenses in those years.