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carolinatony 09-24-2012 09:57 PM

What DB do you like?
 
We all know we still need a better pass rush but lets be real, Our secondary is one of the worst in the league.
Anyone you see out there that can make a impact if we draft late 20's?

WalterFootball.com: 2013 NFL Draft Scouting Report: T.J. McDonald
has us taking Safety USC T.J. McDonald, 6-3/205

Career Recap: McDonald made his presence felt in his first season as a starter in 2010. He led USC in tackles with 89, including three tackles for a loss, four passes broken up, three interceptions and a blocked punt. He was named an All-Pac-10 Second-Team selection. McDonald then had a solid junior year with 67 tackles with three interceptions, two passes broken up and a blocked kick. He had two interceptions against Arizona quarterback Nick Foles.

McDonald is a hard hitter and physical defender. He drew a half-game suspension for a hit during USC's triple overtime loss to Stanford. McDonald could have been a late first-round or second-round pick in the 2012 NFL Draft, but decided to return for his senior campaign.

Merril Hoge's Tie Knot 09-25-2012 12:29 AM

Re: What DB do you like?
 
Dion Jordan

mayoclinic 09-25-2012 05:33 AM

Re: What DB do you like?
 
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Originally Posted by Merril Hoge's Tie Knot (Post 3167211)
Dion Jordan

Word. Jordan will be an All Pro, and his versatility is unreal.

Give me Bjoern Werner or Jesse Williams and Jordan, and there will be no reason the Pats' D shouldn't be doing what Seattle's D did to Green Bay last night on a regular basis.

BritPat 09-25-2012 05:49 AM

Re: What DB do you like?
 
Jonathan Banks looks as good as any corner in the nation, even David Amerson.

We know how much BB loves his SEC guys too.....

patsfaninpa 09-25-2012 09:30 AM

Re: What DB do you like?
 
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Originally Posted by mayoclinic (Post 3167406)
Word. Jordan will be an All Pro, and his versatility is unreal.

Give me Bjoern Werner or Jesse Williams and Jordan, and there will be no reason the Pats' D shouldn't be doing what Seattle's D did to Green Bay last night on a regular basis.

Improve the pass rush. DE in Round 1. I'm leaning towards letting Chung walk. He just can't play the ball. Do you try McCourty at safety for a year before allowing him to walk also? I like Kenny Vaccaro from Texas as a S if you want to keep McCourty at cb. In Round 2. Then, hit the ol.

manxman2601 09-25-2012 09:30 AM

Re: What DB do you like?
 
Kyle Fuller, Viginia Tech. A Junior but plays like Dre Kirkpatrick with better coverage skills. Also like Florida's Matt Elam as a safety.

Merril Hoge's Tie Knot 09-25-2012 02:14 PM

Re: What DB do you like?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mayoclinic (Post 3167406)
Word. Jordan will be an All Pro, and his versatility is unreal.

Give me Bjoern Werner or Jesse Williams and Jordan, and there will be no reason the Pats' D shouldn't be doing what Seattle's D did to Green Bay last night on a regular basis.

He's the ultimate chess piece, the Aaron Hernandez of the defense.

manxman2601 09-25-2012 02:26 PM

Re: What DB do you like?
 
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Originally Posted by Merril Hoge's Tie Knot (Post 3168190)
He's the ultimate chess piece, the Aaron Hernandez of the defense.

My worry is that he's someone without a position. There's certain yardsticks BB likes from his defensive starters on the front 7 and most of those involve being big enough to seal the edge and defend the run and that's where I think Jordan falls down as a Pats prospect. Sure, he'd be great as a rotational "chess piece" player but I'm not sure we take one of those in the first two rounds and Jordan with his athleticism probably won't make it past pick 64.

Merril Hoge's Tie Knot 09-25-2012 04:13 PM

Re: What DB do you like?
 
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Originally Posted by manxman2601 (Post 3168203)
My worry is that he's someone without a position. There's certain yardsticks BB likes from his defensive starters on the front 7 and most of those involve being big enough to seal the edge and defend the run and that's where I think Jordan falls down as a Pats prospect. Sure, he'd be great as a rotational "chess piece" player but I'm not sure we take one of those in the first two rounds and Jordan with his athleticism probably won't make it past pick 64.

Yeah that's certainly a possibility, but he also likes length, versatility, and athleticism. Maybe BB will draft him as a CB. He's the perfect mold of a player to shut down the Jimmy Grahams of the NFL. We are probably going to need a new slot corner when Arrington gets paid.

He's probably better suited as an OLB in a 3-4, than a DE in a 4-3 like the Pats, but if there's a coach in the league I'd like to see get a player like Jordan, it's BB.

I figure Jordan can play DE in the 42 and 41, slot CB in the 42 and 41, money back in the 42, MLB in the 41, and a sub-rusher in any defense. That's plenty of time on the field without a set position.

mayoclinic 09-25-2012 04:28 PM

Re: What DB do you like?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Merril Hoge's Tie Knot (Post 3168190)
He's the ultimate chess piece, the Aaron Hernandez of the defense.

Quote:

Originally Posted by manxman2601 (Post 3168203)
My worry is that he's someone without a position. There's certain yardsticks BB likes from his defensive starters on the front 7 and most of those involve being big enough to seal the edge and defend the run and that's where I think Jordan falls down as a Pats prospect. Sure, he'd be great as a rotational "chess piece" player but I'm not sure we take one of those in the first two rounds and Jordan with his athleticism probably won't make it past pick 64.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Merril Hoge's Tie Knot (Post 3168351)
Yeah that's certainly a possibility, but he also likes length, versatility, and athleticism. Maybe BB will draft him as a CB. He's the perfect mold of a player to shut down the Jimmy Grahams of the NFL. We are probably going to need a new slot corner when Arrington gets paid.

He's probably better suited as an OLB in a 3-4, than a DE in a 4-3 like the Pats, but if there's a coach in the league I'd like to see get a player like Jordan, it's BB.

I figure Jordan can play DE in the 42 and 41, slot CB in the 42 and 41, money back in the 42, MLB in the 41, and a sub-rusher in any defense. That's plenty of time on the field without a set position.

The NFL has many players who didn't work out as pure fits one place only to succeed spectacularly elsewhere. I love the comparison of Jordan as a defensive Aaron Hernandez. He's a guy who can be moved all over the field to create mayhem, even if he doesn't necessarily quite fit one place. I think he could be one of the biggest impact players in the NFL.


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