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DarrylS 09-09-2012 05:16 AM

Florida Welfare Recipients Paid After Drug Testing Halted..
 
Must have been that liberal "activist" judge to finagled the constitution again, oh wait she was an appointee of George W...

Anyways a 35 year old single parent veteran is going to college, finishing up his degree, and he has a son and the state wanted to take away his welfare benefits because he refused drug testing, so he went to the ACLU and they prevailed. The head of the Fla. ACLU commented, "This is an unconstitutional invasion of privacy, that you can't condition getting some benefit from the government by surrendering your constitutional rights."

What is interesting is the perception that all welfare recipients sit around all day getting high.. while 2300 refused to take the test, of the 4,000 people who took the test only 108 were found to have drugs in their system(2.5%).

Florida "had to reimburse welfare applicants $113,037 for the cost of the test, regardless of whether they passed it or not. And then, they had to pay out just shy of $595,000 in retroactive benefits to families who were initially denied welfare because they either failed the test or refused to take it." But of course this was all budgeted for..

With that $364.00 monthly TANF payment for a family of four, bet those 60" flatscreens were flying off other shelf, so they could watch the game with a filet mignon and caviar buffets...

Florida forced to reimburse welfare recipients after drug testing law struck down - Kingsport Times-News

Hebeill 09-09-2012 05:20 AM

Re: Florida Welfare Recipients Paid After Drug Testing Halted..
 
That criminal governor rick scott just took a hit to the wallet since he ownes part of the company that makes the test kits.

DarrylS 09-09-2012 05:41 AM

Re: Florida Welfare Recipients Paid After Drug Testing Halted..
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hebeill (Post 3136467)
That criminal governor rick scott just took a hit to the wallet since he ownes part of the company that makes the test kits.

That would be a conflict of interest, Mr. Peepers, gee whiz!!!!... Ethics do not matter as long as they get them cheating welfare baztards, the pols line their pockets or create an election sound byte.. that family of four who gets $364.00 a month is really getting ahead in that system.

PatsWSB47 09-09-2012 06:05 AM

Re: Florida Welfare Recipients Paid After Drug Testing Halted..
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DarrylS (Post 3136466)
Must have been that liberal "activist" judge to finagled the constitution again, oh wait she was an appointee of George W...

Anyways a 35 year old single parent veteran is going to college, finishing up his degree, and he has a son and the state wanted to take away his welfare benefits because he refused drug testing, so he went to the ACLU and they prevailed. The head of the Fla. ACLU commented, "This is an unconstitutional invasion of privacy, that you can't condition getting some benefit from the government by surrendering your constitutional rights."

What is interesting is the perception that all welfare recipients sit around all day getting high.. while 2300 refused to take the test, of the 4,000 people who took the test only 108 were found to have drugs in their system(2.5%).

Florida "had to reimburse welfare applicants $113,037 for the cost of the test, regardless of whether they passed it or not. And then, they had to pay out just shy of $595,000 in retroactive benefits to families who were initially denied welfare because they either failed the test or refused to take it." But of course this was all budgeted for..

With that $364.00 monthly TANF payment for a family of four, bet those 60" flatscreens were flying off other shelf, so they could watch the game with a filet mignon and caviar buffets...

Florida forced to reimburse welfare recipients after drug testing law struck down - Kingsport Times-News

My thoughts

Why did the 2300(over a full third) refuse he test....righteous protest? Would it be reasonable to assume that a good number of those that refused did so because they knew they did have drugs in their system? I think a you'd find a much higher percentage of drug use among the ones that refused the test. Yes a good number of recipients do sit around getting high. At the same time I think a lot of people getting other government benefits, including tax cuts etc. also get high. If welfare recipients have to get tested then so do everyone else that benefits monetarily from the government. I don't think that's ever going to happen so i don't think anyone should be tested

Here's another reason to legalize and tax marijuana. Stop draining the system with drug tests and instead tax it and add money into the system.

I have question though. How can anyone say Bush was so blatantly right wing partisan when it seems all of his judge appointees rule otherwise?

DarrylS 09-09-2012 06:33 AM

Re: Florida Welfare Recipients Paid After Drug Testing Halted..
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PatsWSB47 (Post 3136483)
My thoughts

Why did the 2300(over a full third) refuse he test....righteous protest? Would it be reasonable to assume that a good number of those that refused did so because they knew they did have drugs in their system? I think a you'd find a much higher percentage of drug use among the ones that refused the test. Yes a good number of recipients do sit around getting high. At the same time I think a lot of people getting other government benefits, including tax cuts etc. also get high. If welfare recipients have to get tested then so do everyone else that benefits monetarily from the government. I don't think that's ever going to happen so i don't think anyone should be tested

Here's another reason to legalize and tax marijuana. Stop draining the system with drug tests and instead tax it and add money into the system.

I have question though. How can anyone say Bush was so blatantly right wing partisan when it seems all of his judge appointees rule otherwise?

Perhaps the judge thing has to do with upholding the consitution, and not about partisan politics.. messing with folks urines is serious business, and should not be taken lightly.

Not sure why the 2300 refused, perhaps there was some grass roots organizing or perhaps many "toked up" in the past 30-45 days, we will never know.

wistahpatsfan 09-09-2012 06:41 AM

Re: Florida Welfare Recipients Paid After Drug Testing Halted..
 
Wonder how many failed the alcohol blood tests? What? It's OK to get drunk but not smoke weed?

Legalize it!

This is not a partisan issue. CONServatives who profess love for the CONStitution and CONSistency have as much at stake in this case as anyone else.

wistahpatsfan 09-09-2012 06:41 AM

Re: Florida Welfare Recipients Paid After Drug Testing Halted..
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hebeill (Post 3136467)
That criminal governor rick scott just took a hit to the wallet since he ownes part of the company that makes the test kits.

Is that true? You gotta be kidding!

Oh wait...Florida.

scout 09-09-2012 07:25 AM

Re: Florida Welfare Recipients Paid After Drug Testing Halted..
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wistahpatsfan (Post 3136496)
Is that true? You gotta be kidding!

Oh wait...Florida.

No kidding, right? It is real head scratcher how a state elects someone who scammed the government in the biggest case of Medicare fraud in history.

Mrs.PatsFanInVa 09-09-2012 08:47 AM

Re: Florida Welfare Recipients Paid After Drug Testing Halted..
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by scout (Post 3136523)
It is real head scratcher how a state elects someone who scammed the government in the biggest case of Medicare fraud in history.

Two words:

Tea Party

Real World 09-09-2012 10:57 AM

Re: Florida Welfare Recipients Paid After Drug Testing Halted..
 
They should test if the state wants to. If you're going to accept someone else's money, then you also must accept the strings that come attached to it. Don't want to take the test, then dont accept someone else's hard earned money. To me, it's that easy. Now, do I think that half the people collecting welfare are on drugs? Of course not. That doesn't change the basic point that it isn't their money. If a state, and it's people, feel it's necessary that eligibility require a drug free component, so be it.


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