Should We Trade Up For South Carolina DE Melvin Ingram??
 

Let's make a scenario here. Let's say we decide to do trade for a guy like Asante Samuel let's say...... 2nd-3rd round pick?? And instead of drafting a safety in the high rounds, we move McCourty or Dowling to Safety and draft a safety a little later (maybe a George Iloka, Trumaine Johnson) I would think we could trade both 1st's for a pick around, say in the upper top 10, and Ingram's still on the board. Would you guys think Bill would consider doing this?

re: Should We Trade Up For South Carolina DE Melvin Ingram??
 

Trading up for Ingram might be doable with 27 + 48. The question is do we prefer Ingram to Nick Perry + Harrison Smith, which is the rough value story. I think it's a close call; I would not rush into that trade. If Ingram drops into range for 27 + 63, then I vote Yes.

Why make the question more complicated by wrapping Asante Samuel into the discussion? Anything to do with Asante, his unreasonable contract and his unreasonable salary expectations are a terrible idea.

re: Should We Trade Up For South Carolina DE Melvin Ingram??
 

The reason why was because many people want us to draft Barron if availible at 27, but that wouldn't happen if the 27th and 31st picks were used. And then the gap would still be there in the secondary. I would've said sign Ladarious Webb, but he would cost a first rounder, wouldn't he since he's RFA? Well, if what you said they could trade up for works, then getting Ingram/Webb scenario would work.

re: Should We Trade Up For South Carolina DE Melvin Ingram??
 

Our two firsts reportedly have a value of around a #10 pick...I don't think that will be enough for Ingram. He's the most versatile DE in the draft and the best. Jacksonville and Miami could well split between Coples and Ingram. I'd settle for either, whilst Ingram has the most versatility and Coples has question marks surrounding his motor and work ethic.

I do believe the team should trade up however. They need D Line...a 5-tech end who can move inside. Fletcher Cox stands out the most to me as a day one starter. There's a major drop off in talent after the first few defensive linemen so you either want to be picking high in the first or not at all if you want true value. Cox, Perry, Ingram, Coples and Poe are the only guys I would entertain trading up into the top 15 for. Brockers or still I would entertain lower down, as well as Curry towards the very end and Mercilus somewhere in there too., Mercilus worries me a little. Could wind up being just a situational rusher but he has enough upside as a pass rusher to be considered in the first round.

I'd be surprised if our two first alone got us any higher than #10 with the value a first round pick possesses now!

How about both firsts or a first, a second combined with Brian Hoyer for a #4 from Cleveland? ;) I'd let that slip any day!

re: Should We Trade Up For South Carolina DE Melvin Ingram??
 

Nope. He is 6'1 and has 31.5 inch arms.

re: Should We Trade Up For South Carolina DE Melvin Ingram??
 

Rather have Coples, or Claiborne.

re: Should We Trade Up For South Carolina DE Melvin Ingram??
 

I really don't want Coples, but maybe that's because of what happened with Robert Quinn last year. Claiborne would be nice, but pass rusher's a bigger need than CB.

re: Should We Trade Up For South Carolina DE Melvin Ingram??
 

Melvin Ingram college career in the SEC
21 sacks 30.5 TFL 109 Tackles in 50 games

Jake Bequette college career in the SEC
23.5 sacks 31 TFL 126 Tackes in 48 games

Jake is better in every category. Jake also has better size at 6'5" 274 vs 6'1" 264.

Their combine numbers
Ingram 3 cone 6.83 shuttle 4.18 vert 34.5 broad 109 10yard split 1.72
Bequette 3 cone 6.90 shuttle 4.07 vert 34 broad 113 10yard split 1.72

Ingram got most of his sacks and TFL playing DT, and overmatching slow footed college OGs with his burst. That wont fly much in the NFL. When he was lined up as DE in college, Ingram was pretty ineffective.

Absolutely no need to throw away 2 1round picks for Ingram, when you can get a better player in Bequette with one of the 2nd round picks.

re: Should We Trade Up For South Carolina DE Melvin Ingram??
 

Not again.....^^...

re: Should We Trade Up For South Carolina DE Melvin Ingram??
 

Bequette is not a better player than Ingram...jesus christ!