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SVN 01-31-2012 10:38 PM

Clayton:How vulnerable is Tom Brady?
 
Super Bowl 2012 - How vulnerable is Tom Brady to pass rush? - ESPN

PatsDeb 01-31-2012 10:45 PM

Re: Clayton:How vulnerable is Tom Brady?
 
Yeah, like the pencil necked geek knows anything about Brady. Geez, I can't wait for this game! But then of course, the season will be over! :(

PikesPeakPatsFan 01-31-2012 10:54 PM

Re: Clayton:How vulnerable is Tom Brady?
 
I'm okay with the season being over as long as it ends with a big Patriots victory!

patfanken 01-31-2012 11:25 PM

Re: Clayton:How vulnerable is Tom Brady?
 
Why do Clayton and mediots keep ignoring what the Pats have done. Why don't they mention that the Pats have already played 8i games against 6 of the top 10 pass rushing teams and only allowed 13 sacks. Why doesn't he mention than in the first meeting, the Pats only allowed 2 sacks, but more importantly, only 3 QB hits and 4 hurries. Why don't they mention that once the Pats had figured out the Jet defense, they blew it their defense away

The Jets won that game because they created 4 turnovers to the Pats 2. If they don't have a +2 margin on Sunday they won't win the game.

Deus Irae 01-31-2012 11:33 PM

Re: Clayton:How vulnerable is Tom Brady?
 
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Originally Posted by patfanken (Post 2938433)
Why do Clayton and mediots keep ignoring what the Pats have done. Why don't they mention that the Pats have already played 8i games against 6 of the top 10 pass rushing teams and only allowed 13 sacks. Why doesn't he mention than in the first meeting, the Pats only allowed 2 sacks, but more importantly, only 3 QB hits and 4 hurries. Why don't they mention that once the Pats had figured out the Jet defense, they blew it their defense away

The Jets won that game because they created 4 turnovers to the Pats 2. If they don't have a +2 margin on Sunday they won't win the game.

Templates, Ken.... media templates



Well, that and being too lazy to actually dissect the past games that they point to. It happens in all sports and towards all players. Manning has become elite because it's the template and reporters don't bother dissecting the games to see the "why?" of those 4th quarter and OT comebacks.

2007 - Brady was badly hobbled, Neal was injured early, and Hochstein was hurt

2009 - Brady was still rounding back into form and Welker was lost the week before

2010 - Mental mistakes

2011 - Brady does enough to win and the Patriots score more in regulation than the Giants even with overtime. Manning throws two horrible passes which are easy picks if the defenders don't collide with one another. Despite this, Manning is feted, Brady is said to have played poorly and Brady's record setting performance from the week before is completely forgotten.

Jackson 2 01-31-2012 11:41 PM

Re: Clayton:How vulnerable is Tom Brady?
 
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Originally Posted by SVN (Post 2938378)

WARNING: GROSS ALERT!! Tom E. Curran's anecdote about Clayton tells you all anyone needs to know. Curran related a couple of years ago that he actually saw Clayton pick his nose and eat the fruits of his labor in the press box. So, the question becomes: How vulnerable is John Clayton to calcified nasal waste? Game, set, match...

tuckeverlasting 02-01-2012 01:37 AM

Re: Clayton:How vulnerable is Tom Brady?
 
boy, giants players sure talk a lot of $%^# for a 9-7 team.


clayton's always been an unpatriotic a-hole.

upstater1 02-01-2012 01:48 AM

Re: Clayton:How vulnerable is Tom Brady?
 
The thing that gets me about these media portrayals is that the Patriots are cast as wussies.

Brady is a wimp. The offensive line can't take getting punched in the mouth. The defense is a pushover.

If anything, I look at the Patriots as exactly the opposite. I see physical deficiencies in terms of strength and speed (everyone excepting Gronk and Hernandez).

Brady is not the most imposing specimen for a QB, BJGE is not the fastest or biggest, Welker and Branch are shrimp-ly, our Dline is rotund and very un-JPP like, our LBs are unheralded other than Mayo, while our DBs are just a lost cause.

So how do they win: mental toughness. This is one of the hardest--no, I'll say, THE HARDEST, NFL team to beat. They are beatable, yes. Because there are more talented teams out there. But boy, if you want to beat them, you better bring it, because they will not yield an inch to you. You better be on your game and be ready for a real scrap. This team is simply gritty. They ARE tough. They personify tough, at least to me. Maybe not tough in the sense of badass (and I know football is one badass sport) but tough in the sense of being diligent, doing their job, fighting, not giving up, having pride in the team and in one another.

This is why I love this team. And I simply can't understand how in the world they've been cast as soft pushovers. Bizarre.

I'd rather the media talk about how the Giants are going to dominate because of the speed problems they present. That seems like a viable argument, but don't tell us about Eli's toughness and the relative lack of it in Brady.

ivanvamp 02-01-2012 05:01 AM

Re: Clayton:How vulnerable is Tom Brady?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by upstater1 (Post 2938567)
The thing that gets me about these media portrayals is that the Patriots are cast as wussies.

Brady is a wimp. The offensive line can't take getting punched in the mouth. The defense is a pushover.

If anything, I look at the Patriots as exactly the opposite. I see physical deficiencies in terms of strength and speed (everyone excepting Gronk and Hernandez).

Brady is not the most imposing specimen for a QB, BJGE is not the fastest or biggest, Welker and Branch are shrimp-ly, our Dline is rotund and very un-JPP like, our LBs are unheralded other than Mayo, while our DBs are just a lost cause.

So how do they win: mental toughness. This is one of the hardest--no, I'll say, THE HARDEST, NFL team to beat. They are beatable, yes. Because there are more talented teams out there. But boy, if you want to beat them, you better bring it, because they will not yield an inch to you. You better be on your game and be ready for a real scrap. This team is simply gritty. They ARE tough. They personify tough, at least to me. Maybe not tough in the sense of badass (and I know football is one badass sport) but tough in the sense of being diligent, doing their job, fighting, not giving up, having pride in the team and in one another.

This is why I love this team. And I simply can't understand how in the world they've been cast as soft pushovers. Bizarre.

I'd rather the media talk about how the Giants are going to dominate because of the speed problems they present. That seems like a viable argument, but don't tell us about Eli's toughness and the relative lack of it in Brady.

Great points. They are cast as "soft" because they are a pass-oriented team. Pass-oriented teams are usually considered "finesse" because their OL tend to spend more time backpedaling in pass protection than firing forward and road grading people in the running game. And because they don't have a great, dominating defense, they're seen as getting the job done with smoke and mirrors rather than with speed, power, and athleticism.

derF 02-01-2012 05:27 AM

Re: Clayton:How vulnerable is Tom Brady?
 
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