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Off The Grid 01-05-2012 11:48 AM

Super Mario!!!
 
My GOD...

I don't think ANYONE here is more Free Agent Averse than I...

...NOR more Draft-Centric...

But I would INSTANTLY walk away from a 1st and a 3rd to get Super Mario...

Is it POSSIBLE that Planet Hoosten might be obliged to let him go...for NOTHING??? :eek:

cstjohn17 01-05-2012 11:57 AM

Re: Super Mario!!!
 
Sign me up, it was a mistake to let Peppers go to the Bears. Having a player of William's caliber improves the entire defense.

First win the superbowl, next piss everyone off by adding two 1st round picks and Mario Williams.

Shockt327 01-05-2012 12:28 PM

Re: Super Mario!!!
 
I know I'm making an unfair comparison....

But this past year NE had two double-digit-sack, pass rushers in Carter and Anderson. Two. That's a feat Mario hasn't achieved since 2008.

That's not a knock against Mario. He's great. And versatile. I just can't help but think that we'd be giving up way, way, way too much to adress an area we did just last season -- and adressed it unbelieveably well -- for a fraction of the cost.

Basically, the D has way more needs than just one guy.

MoLewisrocks 01-05-2012 12:31 PM

Re: Super Mario!!!
 
Really, we can't get through the wild card week of the playoffs without this fantasy crap erupting?? Ian should have a fantasy FA forum like the draft forum for year round fantasizing.

ProudestRyno 01-05-2012 12:32 PM

Re: Super Mario!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Shockt327 (Post 2879423)
I know I'm making an unfair comparison....

But this past year NE had two double-digit-sack, pass rushers in Carter and Anderson. Two. That's a feat Mario hasn't achieved since 2008.

That's not a knock against Mario. He's great. And versatile. I just can't help but think that we'd be giving up way, way, way too much to adress an area we did just last season -- and adressed it unbelieveably well -- for a fraction of the cost.

Basically, the D has way more needs than just one guy.

It's impressive how many sacks Carter and Anderson got this year. But let's be real...Mario Williams is a different beast and would improve the pass rush in a BIG way. A team's pass rush shouldn't be judged based on the number of sacks. It's about pressure. Sometimes you get the sack, sometimes you don't. But it's the pressure you want.

Would you rather have a pass rush that gets you 2 sacks in a game and no pressure the rest of the game. Or a pass rush that gets no sacks, but is getting consistent pressure, QB hits/hurries throughout the game?

Shockt327 01-05-2012 12:39 PM

Re: Super Mario!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ProudestRyno (Post 2879427)
It's impressive how many sacks Carter and Anderson got this year. But let's be real...Mario Williams is a different beast and would improve the pass rush in a BIG way. A team's pass rush shouldn't be judged based on the number of sacks. It's about pressure. Sometimes you get the sack, sometimes you don't. But it's the pressure you want.

Would you rather have a pass rush that gets you 2 sacks in a game and no pressure the rest of the game. Or a pass rush that gets no sacks, but is getting consistent pressure, QB hits/hurries throughout the game?

You are creating a false dichotomy. Both Anderson and Carter were indeed fantastic at creating pressure this season. Their sacks were not just some sort of arbitrary flash in the pan success. They consistently created pressure. Especially when they were out there at the same time.

So yeah, it isn't just the pass rush that's the problem. Paying a boatload for one guy isn't the solution -- especially since he'd be replacing one of the very few guys who wasn't a problem this past year.

JackBauer 01-05-2012 12:43 PM

Re: Super Mario!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MoLewisrocks (Post 2879425)
Really, we can't get through the wild card week of the playoffs without this fantasy crap erupting?? Ian should have a fantasy FA forum like the draft forum for year round fantasizing.

Who cares? It's not like there's a plethora of discussion taking place on the main board right now.

If you don't like it, don't read and/or post in the thread. Simple as that.

That being said, NFL.com has him listed as an LB. I haven't seen a single Texans game this year, so I don't know whether he's predominantly being used as a DE or OLB, or what he'd project as in our system. Which would be a pretty significant factor, I think, in determining whether or not we'd want him on board.

Deus Irae 01-05-2012 12:48 PM

Re: Super Mario!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JackBauer (Post 2879441)
Who cares? It's not like there's a plethora of discussion taking place on the main board right now.

If you don't like it, don't read and/or post in the thread. Simple as that.

That being said, NFL.com has him listed as an LB. I haven't seen a single Texans game this year, so I don't know whether he's predominantly being used as a DE or OLB, or what he'd project as in our system. Which would be a pretty significant factor, I think, in determining whether or not we'd want him on board.

When Phillips arrived, they moved Williams from DE to OLB, because they switched to the 3-4.

JackBauer 01-05-2012 12:52 PM

Re: Super Mario!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Deus Irae (Post 2879444)
When Phillips arrived, they moved Williams from DE to OLB, because they switched to the 3-4.

Roger.

Well, if we are planning on the 3-4 next year, I'd say go for it. It's not like we have a litany of talent at OLB as it stands.

MoLewisrocks 01-05-2012 12:53 PM

Re: Super Mario!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JackBauer (Post 2879441)
Who cares? It's not like there's a plethora of discussion taking place on the main board right now.

If you don't like it, don't read and/or post in the thread. Simple as that.

That being said, NFL.com has him listed as an LB. I haven't seen a single Texans game this year, so I don't know whether he's predominantly being used as a DE or OLB, or what he'd project as in our system. Which would be a pretty significant factor, I think, in determining whether or not we'd want him on board.

Actually there is a plethora at the moment, that's the rub...


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