Backup QBs - Hoyer VS Mallet
 

Good morning everyone! Forgive me if this has been posted recently, as I did not find it on the first few pages...

In our playoff bye week, I thought it would be fun to ask: What do you think of our backup QBs?

Ryan Mallett: 23 years old, 6'7, 250 with a mega rocket for an arm.
Brian Hoyer: 26 years old, 6'2 215 and has proven dependable so far and seems to be a better decision maker then Mallett. :)

Mallett reminds me a lot of TMFB for many reasons (including his draft position, throwing style and pocket presence)

Check out Mallett's highlights against the jags:
Ryan Mallett 8-11-11 Pats vs Jags Preseason - YouTube
... and analysis on his draft position...
NFL Videos: Perfect fit for Mallett?
Edit: Quick side note, Jacksonville, Washington and San Francisco could have both drafted Mallett (among many other teams) and whether or not he plays better then their current QBs remains to be seen.


From this highlight video, you can see he can locate the open receiver and has great throws, especially in the middle.... 12-19 for 164 and 1 touchdown in the game, and although he also had an interception, if that was gronk or welker catching the ball then he would of been 13-19 :)

I believe Hoyer is a smarter guy, but I believe Mallett is the potential future of our franchise. Anyone have any cool stats on either of the two? Any thoughts on the future of our QBs 5-10 years down the road?

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Given a choice between a guy we've seen almost nothing of and a guy we've seen absolutely nothing of, I'll take...umm....:confused:

Seriously, the two of them have combine for 27 career passes, most of those by Hoyer back in his rookie year. I don't feel like I have much basis for evaluation. But reading tea leaves, BB isn't generally one to carry 3 QBs, especially with a returning #2 already in place. That tells me that the coaches are encouraged by what they've seen of Mallett, and unlike Hoyer he has rare, elite physical tools.

So if I were betting on one of them to become a franchise QB, my money would be on Mallett. Hoyer strikes me as a guy who has the poise, judgment and fundamentals for a pretty long career, but as a backup and spot starter.

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If I had to choose based on one being more like Brady than the other, my money would be on Hoyer - the overachiever. Mallet doesn't strike me as a fit here on many levels. As to comparing what they have done this year, all I know is Hoyer has 3 times as many black practice player of the week jersey's on the season even while functioning as the #2. Mallet (who earned his replicating the Sanchize...yeesh) is on the roster simply because given his pre draft buzz and third round selection he'd have never made it through waivers. And Hoyer is scheduled to be a RFA this season, so Bill finally had to have a backup backup plan. I watch the demeanor of the two on the sidelines and while Mallet is a perennial inactive I would think he could manage more than schmoozing with the other youngsters. Sometimes Bill indulges based on emotional connections, like Tebow or Ocho...and other times he seems to get dazzled by measurables as many coaches and scouts tend to...but those decisions don't tend to pan out as well as his concensus based ones on average.

As for the future, baring catestrophic injury (and given his track record even that doesn't necessarily stop him) neither will be around when Tom jogs off into the tunnel for the last time. That guy is probably being recruited by some college now or perhaps stuck behind some overhyped bluechipper and waiting and working towards his chance. All these interim guys are just place holders and potential trade fodder but most importantly place holders. We don't know yet if Mallet is even that. This offseason should tell the tale. If he can't overtake Hoyer on the depth chart and Bill is willing to keep Hoyer around on a RFA tender of $1.8M or more...then I don't know how you can even assume Mallet can ever be even a place holder here. Doesn't mean he couldn't have some success in another scheme, but to stay around more than a year or two here you have to have as much floor as potential ceiling.

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More "like Brady"? I'd agree, and that's part of what makes him a valuable backup here. But more likely to ultimately become a franchise QB somewhere? Again, I'd bet Mallett.

Mallett wasn't a "measurables" prospect so much as a "wow look at that throw!" prospect. He made plays in college that few NFL QBs can manage -- the combination of vision, accuracy and pure raw arm strength. And by all accounts his football knowledge and intensity are strengths.

Re: Backup QBs - Hoyer VS Mallet
 

Reminds me more of someone who was tall and had a strong arm. And while that still may succeed somewhere it won't cut it here. Unless they can flip him for a #2 or better in an upcoming draft, I'd have been happier had someone else taken a flyer on "wow" and left McElroy sitting there for us to scoop up in our developmental QB sweet spot. Of course, Greg may yet become available...

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You forgot to add that during the offseason the work outs and passing camps was run by hoyer past year.

satz

Re: Backup QBs - Hoyer VS Mallet
 

Mallett didn't have the full off season to be coached. So presently Hoyer is the #2 with his grasp of the O. Mallett clearly has elite physical tools, it was observed that Mallett spent 5 hrs pre draft reviewing film with BB. If he is a film rat and spends time with Brady and Hoyer in the film room he could be special.

It will be fun to see Mallett in action next year in preseason.

Re: Backup QBs - Hoyer VS Mallet
 

LOL.....sounds like someone doesn't like Mallett just for the sake of not liking him

Re: Backup QBs - Hoyer VS Mallet
 

Mallett versus Hoyer or whatever garbage others are throwing is laughable

it's like taking rick mirer over drew bledsoe

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Thank god BB went with his gut feeling in 2000 and kept Brady as 4TH! QB which is basically a wasted roster spot. I agree though most of the time the decisions made on feelings don't turn out as planned but you gotta try once in a while!

I would take Mallett over Hoyer, he has higher ceiling IMO.