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Gumby 12-27-2011 04:34 AM

Tendonitis - TFB?
 
From the latest Clayton-Espn article
http://<a href="http://espn.go.com/n...-last-call</a>

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3. Brady's banged-up bunch: Because of shoulder tendinitis, Patriots quarterback Tom Brady often starts games slowly. Because of offensive line injuries, the Patriots almost lost the No. 1 seed in the AFC.


Thanks to Brady's resilience and patience, the Patriots were able to hold off the Miami Dolphins 27-24 and clinch a playoff bye. A win next week clinches home field. The Patriots fell behind 17-0 in the first half, and Brady was rattled. Left tackle Matt Light (ankle) was scratched before the game, and because tackle Sebastian Vollmer remained out, coach Bill Belichick had to gamble by moving Pro Bowl guard Logan Mankins to left tackle.


Then Dolphins defensive end Jared Odrick fell on Mankins' left knee and ankle and knocked him out of the game. The Patriots had to put rookies Nate Solder and Marcus Cannon at tackle. Journeyman Donald Thomas took over Mankins' left guard spot.


In the first half, Brady was 7-of-19 for 87 yards and was sacked three times.


"To lose Matt Light an hour and a half before the game and then lose Logan in the first or second series of the game, a lot of guys really stepped up and played hard, played for 60 minutes,'' Brady said.


Brady took control of the game by going no-huddle. Somehow the rookie tackles responded. "They're tough, they're very well-coached and they have a lot of pride,'' Brady said. "Hopefully, we get some guys back next week. You don't want to certainly make a habit of it, but we did it and we overcame it against a team that played very hard. We showed some resiliency and some mental toughness.''
And they needed it. Had the Patriots lost, they would have lost control of the AFC's top seed to the AFC North heavyweights.

I just don't get this. Is Clayton just making stuff up?

ok, TB was wearing that arm band supposedly for tendonitis before; but first he isnt wearing it anymore and SECOND I just dont get why that would cause him to start slow.

I mean he gets the entire pre-game to warm up. and that is probably a lot more time and CONSECUTIVE TIME; than he has once the game starts. Once the game is going when he comes off he is looking at still-shots and working with coaches; not keeping throwing arm warm.


I thought it was fairly conclusive that the OL near catastrophe was what caused his slow start vs miami. I thought the other slow starts were also more on motivation / team /or having to adapt game plan to the opponent than on Brady.

DarrylS 12-27-2011 04:40 AM

Re: Tendonitis - TFB?
 
The tendonitis has been brought up a couple of times now, of course there is complete denial.. but a lot of makeable throws seem off.

More importantly is the condition of his left shoulder, which was initially reported as injured by Zolak after the game and then by subsequent scribes in the Boston Press. Apparently he was having some serious issues with that, we will know more tomorrow after the injury report is released.

Gumby 12-27-2011 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by DarrylS (Post 2863115)
The tendonitis has been brought up a couple of times now, of course there is complete denial.. but a lot of makeable throws seem off.

More importantly is the condition of his left shoulder, which was initially reported as injured by Zolak after the game and then by subsequent scribes in the Boston Press. Apparently he was having some serious issues with that, we will know more tomorrow after the injury report is released.


right; agreed we know all that. BUT WHY WOULD THE TENDONITIS ONLY AFFECT HIM TO START THE GAME?????

ausbacker 12-27-2011 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by DarrylS (Post 2863115)
The tendonitis has been brought up a couple of times now, of course there is complete denial.. but a lot of makeable throws seem off.

More importantly is the condition of his left shoulder, which was initially reported as injured by Zolak after the game and then by subsequent scribes in the Boston Press. Apparently he was having some serious issues with that, we will know more tomorrow after the injury report is released.

Wasn't it tennis elbow earlier in the season? That's some journey from elbow to shoulder in a few months.

DarrylS 12-27-2011 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by ausbacker (Post 2863129)
Wasn't it tennis elbow earlier in the season? That's some journey from elbow to shoulder in a few months.

The shoulder happened in the final minutes of last week's game..

DarrylS 12-27-2011 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Gumby (Post 2863125)
right; agreed we know all that. BUT WHY WOULD THE TENDONITIS ONLY AFFECT HIM TO START THE GAME?????

Guess I missed the memo, sorry about that.

bruce_w 12-27-2011 06:11 AM

Re: Tendonitis - TFB?
 
This is pretty simple for anyone that has played sports or even worked a physical job and had tendonitis before.

ausbacker 12-27-2011 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by DarrylS (Post 2863133)
The shoulder happened in the final minutes of last week's game..

I'm aware of the shoulder but wasn't it reported as his non-throwing shoulder and why would the article base the assumption of the Patriots recent slow starts on shoulder tendinopathy, a non-confirmed injury that was said to have occurred on the weekend?

All the players have issues to deal with at this stage of the season.

MoLewisrocks 12-27-2011 07:10 AM

Re: Tendonitis - TFB?
 
It must be hard to keep 32 sets of injuries straight. Especially when you don't watch all 16 contests per week and you don't have inside sources on some teams...


Brady was fine before the game. After the game he was forced to one armed hug his boss. He obviously jammed the shoulder late in that game. The crypkeeper is getting his body parts and time lines confused.

And I'm sick of hearing about Tommy's slow starts... Especially when Welker was apologzing for his in the locker room at halftime. Throws are off when receivers are off and blocking is off and intensity is lacking, not just when QB's are off... Brady is throwing to a spot, not a human target. It's the targets job to be precisely in that spot, which under duress and in the heat of battle doesn't always happen. Ditto the missing wide open receivers... Just because they appear wide open on TV doesn't mean they were missed...it often means they ran the wrong route or failed to adjust to coverage or were the third, fourth or fifth progression to begin with and you don't get to those under the kind of pressure Tom faced in the first half.

They don't go hurry up just to tucker out defenses. They do it to ramp up the intensity and focus of the offense.

DarrylS 12-27-2011 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ausbacker (Post 2863141)
I'm aware of the shoulder but wasn't it reported as his non-throwing shoulder and why would the article base the assumption of the Patriots recent slow starts on shoulder tendinopathy, a non-confirmed injury that was said to have occurred on the weekend?

All the players have issues to deal with at this stage of the season.

Let me try again, there is no disagreement that TB has some type of arm injury and somehow it seems to get better as the game progresses. His errant throws are obvious.

My concern now is that injury may take a back seat to his recent injury that occurred on his left shoulder last Saturday, and according to Zolak et al he had difficulty taking off his jersey after the game. Even though it is his left shoulder, any injury can throw a QB out of sync..

Every player has a variety of health issues at this stage of the season...


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