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patsfan13 12-05-2011 07:10 PM

Left wing pollsters see Obama in deep trouble
 
From the LEft win journal The New Republic:

William Galston: Slice The Demographics Any Way You Want, But Obama Is In Trouble | The New Republic


Quote:

It’s clear that Obama’s margins are down—way down—not just among swing voters, but in the core of his coalition as well. Compounding the problem, the base’s enthusiasm and intensity have declined as well. As Gerald Seib has noted, while Democrats won the intensity race hands-down in 2008, the reverse is the case today. In the most recent NBC/WSJ poll, 56 percent of Republicans said that they were more enthusiastic than usual, versus only 43 percent of Democrats, and 59 percent of conservatives profess to be more enthusiastic than usual, versus only 38 percent of liberals.

The bottom line is that unless things turn around considerably in the next eleven months, key parts of Obama’s winning 2008 coalition are poised to deliver both lower margins and smaller shares of the electorate than they did in 2008. (In general elections, actual votes closely mirror pre-election approval ratings.) If the election were held tomorrow against the most credible Republican challenger, the president would probably lose.
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Hopefully this points to a landslide against Obama.

Ilikehappyppl 12-05-2011 07:30 PM

Re: Left wing pollsters see Obama in deep trouble
 
And who are they gonna vote for then?

Newt? lmfao
Cain? He's done!
Perry? lmfao
Romney? If he could just pick a side and stay on it, he would have a way better shot then anyone else. I don't like anyone with perfect hair or a 5k suit on so IMO he can go fack himself. Or someone that builds a mansion only to tear it down and build another....

Only two GOP'ers that are even in the same league as Obama are Paul and Huntsman and neither of them are gonna get the nod, only way they get in is to go independent....

Like I've said before, its between a Turd Sandwich and a Baloney Sandwich.....I don't think most people like turds...

patsfan13 12-05-2011 07:45 PM

Re: Left wing pollsters see Obama in deep trouble
 
Who cares who they vote for, point is they aren't voting for Obama, except in parts of the Northeast of course.

sdaniels7114 12-05-2011 08:00 PM

Re: Left wing pollsters see Obama in deep trouble
 
In any other year Obama would be toast; but there's just no GOPer capable of closing the deal. Sure, Obama's 2008 voters are willing to go someplace else this time around, there just isn't any other place to go.

Real World 12-05-2011 08:20 PM

Re: Left wing pollsters see Obama in deep trouble
 
None of those polls matter until an opponent is selected. Without an opponent, we know a lot of people dislike Obama. With a singular opponent they still might dislike Obama, but they might not like the other guy any more so. I think 2004 is a decent example of that. I'm not sure voters were excited with Bush, as much as they were mortified of Kerry.

IcyPatriot 12-05-2011 08:25 PM

Re: Left wing pollsters see Obama in deep trouble
 
Pick any one of them ... same ole - same ole as long as Congress maintains it's current mentality.

DarrylS 12-06-2011 04:37 AM

Re: Left wing pollsters see Obama in deep trouble
 
Newt and Pelosi are exchanging words, apparently there is a secret 1000 page ethics investigation that has been alluded to.

She also said there is also quite a bit of public information on Newt, so that may not even be necessary.

To properly vette Newt the 'merican public should have access to this secret document...

But the Democrats do not have to do something, someone on the right will get a copy and then release it and blame it on the MSM.

chicowalker 12-06-2011 08:31 AM

Re: Left wing pollsters see Obama in deep trouble
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by patsfan13 (Post 2827726)
Who cares who they vote for, point is they aren't voting for Obama, except in parts of the Northeast of course.

They will if one of the righty moonbats is the only alternative.

You know this is true, which is why you've been ducking the wager I offered you for months now. Your words are empty.

Harry Boy 12-06-2011 08:32 AM

Re: Left wing pollsters see Obama in deep trouble
 
I can't stand looking at the women, she creeps me out but if Pant Suit Hillary got back in she'd walk away with it, this is The Old Bags chance to be the First Female President.

Obama Is A Poster Boy Joke, his Teleprompters helped him for awhile but even those are useless now, the stupid republicans better start getting nasty and quick, Newt says all the right things but his
"Politician Sex *****" will do him in. Romney would have a chance all he has to do is start acting like a Democrat and forget that "nicey nice *****"

Dear Future Poitician's:
HI, read this slowly, keep your joint in your pants and always remember, you are Not A Kennedy Or A Clinton.
Regards
Harry

chicowalker 12-06-2011 08:37 AM

Re: Left wing pollsters see Obama in deep trouble
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Real World (Post 2827779)
None of those polls matter until an opponent is selected. Without an opponent, we know a lot of people dislike Obama. With a singular opponent they still might dislike Obama, but they might not like the other guy any more so. I think 2004 is a decent example of that. I'm not sure voters were excited with Bush, as much as they were mortified of Kerry.

Bingo. 13 likes to pretend that Obama voters who are unhappy with him are going to vote for the dregs of the GOP race (also known as the temproary frontrunners).

Wishful thinking. A gay Dem who thinks Obama hasn't done enough for gay rights isn't going to vote for Michele Bachman just because she's running against Obama, for example.

And people can argue that many former Obama supporters will just stay home instead, but a polarizing Republican like Bachman, Cain, Gingrich, etc. would be the kind of motivation many less-than-enthusiastic Obama voters would need. Obama is far from the only potential candidate who is disliked. Some of these candidates would drive Republicans to Obama.


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