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KDPPatsfan85 11-30-2011 01:55 PM

2012 Presidential Matchup
 
2012 Presidential Matchups - Rasmussen Reports™


It shows Newt Gingrich beating Obama.

Gingrich 45%
Obama 43%


I would love to see these 2 debate eachother and Newt said that Obama can bring his teleprompter :singing:

Real World 11-30-2011 02:04 PM

Re: 2012 Presidential Matchup
 
If Newt is the nominee and the choice for president becomes Gringrich vs Obama, I think I might throw up in my mouth a little bit. This can't be the best this country has to offer. It just can't be.

BTW, I'm really curious to see how the MSM treats Newt over the next week or two. If they don't mention his history, or vet him like they've vetted the rest, then my hunch of a fix of sorts will be reinforced. See, I have a gut feeling that the greater MSM wants Newt to be the nominee, cuz they know they can rip him to shreds later on, when he's 1 v 1 against Obama. Somewhat similar to how they treated McLame. Newt has a nasty history, and is as establishment as any of the jokers inside DC as can be. If they ignore that now, then that means (imo anyway) they plan to exploit it later. Just a hunch of mine though.

sdaniels7114 11-30-2011 02:11 PM

Re: 2012 Presidential Matchup
 
Just a tiny bit more evidence that the GOP has gone batshyt crazy.

KDPPatsfan85 11-30-2011 02:21 PM

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Do you want to know the difference between obama in 2008 and obama in 2012...HE HAS A RECORD and the record he has is horrible. I am hearing rumors about the DNC wanting to push obama out and put hillary on the presidential ticket and not obama!

Real World 11-30-2011 02:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sdaniels7114 (Post 2818780)
Just a tiny bit more evidence that the GOP has gone batshyt crazy.

I'd say it's more evidence that America has gone bat shyt crazy.

scout 11-30-2011 04:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by KDPPatsfan85 (Post 2818739)
2012 Presidential Matchups - Rasmussen Reports™


It shows Newt Gingrich beating Obama.

Gingrich 45%
Obama 43%


I would love to see these 2 debate eachother and Newt said that Obama can bring his teleprompter :singing:

You realize that there is always at least a 3% margin of error. Then again, later you state that the Dems considered Clinton over Obama................would like to see that link. Oh yea, the teleprompter. Name me a President who answered questions from the opposing branch of Congress and more then held his own.

Boston Boxer 11-30-2011 04:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by KDPPatsfan85 (Post 2818785)
Do you want to know the difference between obama in 2008 and obama in 2012...HE HAS A RECORD and the record he has is horrible. I am hearing rumors about the DNC wanting to push obama out and put hillary on the presidential ticket and not obama!

where are you hearing these rumors?

KDPPatsfan85 11-30-2011 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Boston Boxer (Post 2818986)
where are you hearing these rumors?

MinnPost - Two Dem pollsters suggest Obama drop out in favor of Hillary Clinton





now If i had to choose between Hillary or Obama and it was my only choice, I would go with hillary (she shouldn't run on the phrase 'change' though). The 2 candidates I would want for president is either Ron Paul or Newt Gingrich. My ideal ticket right now would be a Gingrich/West ticket!

Mrs.PatsFanInVa 11-30-2011 05:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by KDPPatsfan85 (Post 2818992)

Um, "two democratic pollsters" does not equal the DNC.

In other words, you're not "hearing" rumors, you're starting them.

Patters 11-30-2011 05:13 PM

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I think Obama would easily handle Newt in a debate, just as he humiliated the House Republicans when he took their questions a few years ago in a 45 minute discussion at their invitation at their retreat. Obama is quite a good debater and he's likeable. Newt is vulnerable because of his hypocrisy and lies (such as about Freddie Mac -- I think you would regard that as an impeachable offense) and his lack of family values in terms of his relationships. And consider these other offenses that you would regard as impeachable: He bounced over 20 checks in the House banking scandal, secretly voted for pay raises when he was in the house, was a draft dodger, was taken to court by his first wife for failing to pay bills, committed adultery, etc. Plus, he's truly an unlikeable guy. He probably has the least attractive personality of any of the Republican candidates.

Rasmussen is typically out of whack:

RealClearPolitics - President Obama vs. Republican Candidates

My guess is that the Democrats won't attack Gingrich until he gets the nomination because he's so vulnerable. If he gets the nomination, then his numbers will drop fairly quickly.


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