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Bill to Ban Corporate Money in Politics

Interesting bill from Rep. Ted Deutch (D-FL):

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Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to expressly exclude for-profit

corporations from the rights given to natural persons by the Constitution of the United States, prohibit

corporate spending in all elections, and affirm the authority of Congress and the States to regulate

corporations and to regulate and set limits on all election contributions and expenditures.

http://teddeutch.house.gov/UploadedF...CH_036_xml.pdf

Re: Bill to Ban Corporate Money in Politics

Bye Bye First Amendment. When Politicians tell who and what people can contribute we are cooked. Not even the fig leaf of excluding contributions that are not from individuals.....

This of course was done so the largest contributors (Unions and Trial Lawyers) can fund their favorites....

Re: Bill to Ban Corporate Money in Politics

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Originally Posted by patsfan13 (Post 2802407)

Bad enough that Congress is bought, let the presidency be selected by some fairer system. Why should special interests on the left or right be accorded so much control? Make it easy for people to contribute via their tax forms, limit donations to under $100, and let people be able to choose the political party of their choice, and you might see the rise of a true third party.

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Originally Posted by patsfan13 (Post 2802407)

Bye Bye First Amendment. When Politicians tell who and what people can contribute we are cooked. Not even the fig leaf of excluding contributions that are not from individuals....

While there's certainly an argument that spending = speech, the idea that this kind of law ends the first amendment is hyperbole.

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Originally Posted by patsfan13 (Post 2802407)

...This of course was done so the largest contributors (Unions and Trial Lawyers) can fund their favorites....

Why would trial lawyers be exempt?

Re: Bill to Ban Corporate Money in Politics

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Originally Posted by chicowalker (Post 2802439)

While there's certainly an argument that spending = speech, the idea that this kind of law ends the first amendment is hyperbole.

Why would trial lawyers be exempt?

The Trial Lawyers technically is a not for profit org........

Re: Bill to Ban Corporate Money in Politics

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Originally Posted by patsfan13 (Post 2802513)

The Trial Lawyers technically is a not for profit org........

What are "The Trial Lawyers"?

Not even sure what you're talking about anymore. Law firms incorporate.

If you're claiming that they aren't technically corporations (b/c they're a PC or an LLP, etc.), that goes for a large % of what we consider corporations, which would mean that a large % of corporations also would be exempt.

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Originally Posted by chicowalker (Post 2802538)

The OP specified for profit corps this allows dome corps to contribute to spend $$$. This is not an accident.

From the OP:

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Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to expressly exclude for-profit corporations from the rights given to natural persons by the Constitution of the United States,

Note the use of the term for-profit. This means not for profit corps could continue their political activities. as could 527c corps. The author of the bill only wants to restrict political speech from those her perceives as political opponents.

You reading skills could use a lot of help.

Here is the page for the Trial Lawyers and another link about their political contributions:

http://www.justice.org/cps/rde/xchg/...sl/default.htm

[/url]http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/summary.php?id=D000000065[/url]

Follow the money.

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Originally Posted by patsfan13 (Post 2802407)

LOL... This sounds like the desperate rationalization of a person who knows without a shadow of a doubt that the future of political "balance" for the RW in this country is utterly toast without bribes and gifts.

Only a con would pervert the first amendment to somehow pretend it means that purchasing power is "freedom of expression."

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Originally Posted by patsfan13 (Post 2802547)

You reading skills could use a lot of help.

Of all people here, you really shouldn't be telling anyone this.

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Originally Posted by patsfan13 (Post 2802547)

Follow the money.

Unless a conservative is under investigation. Then pretend the money trail is irrelevant. LOL

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Originally Posted by patsfan13 (Post 2802547)

The OP specified for profit corps this allows dome corps to contribute to spend $$$. This is not an accident. ...

What is a dome corp?

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Originally Posted by patsfan13 (Post 2802547)

...From the OP:

Note the use of the term for-profit. This means not for profit corps could continue their political activities. as could 527c corps. The author of the bill only wants to restrict political speech from those her perceives as political opponents.

You reading skills could use a lot of help.....

:rofl::rofl:That's pretty funny coming from a guy who can barely read or write.

Especially given that your post didn't really address much of the post it supposedly was a response to and in no way illuminated what your're struggling to say.

The only real question here is whether your point is unintentionally wrong b/c you have no business knowledge or if it's intentionally wrong b/c you don't like trial attorneys.

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Originally Posted by patsfan13 (Post 2802547)

... This means not for profit corps could continue their political activities. as could 527c corps. The author of the bill only wants to restrict political speech from those her perceives as political opponents....Here is the page for the Trial Lawyers and another link about their political contributions:

The American Association for Justice - Homepage

[/url]http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/summary.php?id=D000000065[/url]

Follow the money.

Are you under the impression that only the big bad trial lawyers use 527cs?

Who are the other not for profit corps you're referring to?

What is to stop other corporations from using the same tactics / structures "The Trial Lawyers" employ?

This sounds like yet another issue you simply haven't thought out. Instead you read it on some righty blog and posted it here as fact.