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shirtsleeve 10-13-2011 07:54 PM

Football Player Sits Out Game After Opponent Threatens Forfeit!
 
This is just sad....
Girl football player sits out game after foe threatens forfeit - Prep Rally - High School*Blog - Yahoo! Sports

Oh and Theo is a Cub

Patters 10-13-2011 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by shirtsleeve (Post 2737064)

It is sad. Ron Paul, however, would probably argue that the Academy, being a private school would have every right to exclude the Mina Johnson because her gender, color, or any other reason. And, Mitt Romney probably would have done nothing about this. After all, when the Mormon church finally caught up with the Civil War in 1978 by allowing blacks into their Tabernacle, all Romney did was cry (a rather ambiguous reaction); he wasn't one of the ones who fought to change his church. Man, all I can say is thank God for liberals, or Mina Johnson wouldn't have even had a chance to compete.

shirtsleeve 10-13-2011 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Patters (Post 2737092)
It is sad. Ron Paul, however, would probably argue that the Academy, being a private school would have every right to exclude the Mina Johnson because her gender, color, or any other reason. And, Mitt Romney probably would have done nothing about this. After all, when the Mormon church finally caught up with the Civil War in 1978 by allowing blacks into their Tabernacle, all Romney did was cry (a rather ambiguous reaction); he wasn't one of the ones who fought to change his church. Man, all I can say is thank God for liberals, or Mina Johnson wouldn't have even had a chance to compete.

Well, the acadamy is a private institution, true. But this institution did not exclude her on any basis, not even playing in a traditionally male played sport. So I think your statement is off there.

Oh and Theo is a Cub

chicowalker 10-13-2011 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Patters (Post 2737092)
It is sad. Ron Paul, however, would probably argue that the Academy, being a private school would have every right to exclude the Mina Johnson because her gender, color, or any other reason. And, Mitt Romney probably would have done nothing about this. After all, when the Mormon church finally caught up with the Civil War in 1978 by allowing blacks into their Tabernacle, all Romney did was cry (a rather ambiguous reaction); he wasn't one of the ones who fought to change his church. Man, all I can say is thank God for liberals, or Mina Johnson wouldn't have even had a chance to compete.

and maybe they should be able to...

do you really oppose all-girl (or all boys) schools, for example?

Patsfanin Philly 10-13-2011 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by shirtsleeve (Post 2737064)

Back in 1976, Massachusetts ratified the Equal Rights Amendment in the November elections. The next day we played a soccer game against a school that fielded a girl at forward. We treated like any other game, actually we tried harder so we didn't " get beat by a girl".We would never have thought of not competing, and this was 35 years ago....

sdaniels7114 10-13-2011 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by shirtsleeve (Post 2737095)

Oh and Theo is a Cub

On that note let me make it clear that since this young lady probably already has a better fastball than Wake, if she could only develop a serviceable curve and decent off-speed pitch I'd support the Red Sox signing her. In fact if she could strike out Jeter or Arod to win the ALCS for the Sox I'd likely die of a sports orgasm right there on the spot.

That being said, girls are different from boys. Tackle Football isn't a co-ed sport.

Patters 10-13-2011 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by chicowalker (Post 2737097)
and maybe they should be able to...

do you really oppose all-girl (or all boys) schools, for example?

No, I don't, and those are allowed under the current laws, even for public schools.

Single-sex education - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"In the United States, the Supreme Court ruled on the constitutionality of single-sex public education in the 1996 case of United States v. Virginia. This ruling, written by Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg concluded that single-sex education in the public sector is constitutional only if comparable courses, services, and facilities are made available to both sexes."

I think that makes sense, but I also think that the law should support schools that want to judge people based on their skill level, not their gender.

shirtsleeve 10-13-2011 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by sdaniels7114 (Post 2737112)
On that note let me make it clear that since this young lady probably already has a better fastball than Wake, if she could only develop a serviceable curve and decent off-speed pitch I'd support the Red Sox signing her. In fact if she could strike out Jeter or Arod to win the ALCS for the Sox I'd likely die of a sports orgasm right there on the spot.

That being said, girls are different from boys. Tackle Football isn't a co-ed sport.

I disagree. Again, if someone has the ability to make the team, let them play. While its true that many women will never gain the size to go further than hs to play tackle football, if any should show the ability to do so, they should be afforded the opportunity.

chicowalker 10-13-2011 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Patters (Post 2737120)
No, I don't, and those are allowed under the current laws, even for public schools.

Single-sex education - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"In the United States, the Supreme Court ruled on the constitutionality of single-sex public education in the 1996 case of United States v. Virginia. This ruling, written by Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg concluded that single-sex education in the public sector is constitutional only if comparable courses, services, and facilities are made available to both sexes."

I think that makes sense, but I also think that the law should support schools that want to judge people based on their skill level, not their gender.

just fyi, I'm not talking about legal v illegal, just wondering re opinions on various forms of discrimination / exclusion.

edit: btw, I don't think boys/girls should be excluded from most sports. Wrestling might be an exception, but I'd defer to people who actually wrestled.

Wolfpack 10-13-2011 11:30 PM

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I don't have a problem with girls player football. What I have a problem with is that sooner or later when one of them gets seriously injured because she's way out of her league, you know everyone is the world will be getting sued and her lawyer's argument against the school essentially will be "you should have known enough not to let my client place her own health in danger and forbidden her from playing."


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