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PATRIOTSFANINPA 05-12-2008 12:56 PM

Fox Sports Mike Rosenberg: Goodell is letting the Patriots off too easy
 
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8...40813162&ATT=5

Another guy whining about more severe punishment,Must be a jets fan.

After looking at his picture,doesn't he look like he could be an offspring if Dan Marino and Marty Feldman could have had a baby together?

BelichickFan 05-12-2008 01:00 PM

Re: Fox Sports Mike Rosenberg: Goodell is letting the Patriots off too easy
 
I stop reading articles as soon as I read the word "cheating" - which, of course, means I never finish any of these articeles. It's not cheating.

JoePats 05-12-2008 01:16 PM

Re: Fox Sports Mike Rosenberg: Goodell is letting the Patriots off too easy
 
Quote:

If you gave other coaches the chance to record opposing teams' offensive and defensive signals during games for an eight-year period, and at the end they would lose a first-round pick and their teams would get fined, would they say it was worth it?

I think almost every coach in that league would say yes.
I don't agree with this. First of all, according to Jimmy Johnson, the Pats are not the only team to tape signals in the first place. Second, every team steals signs as it is. Third, there is evidence that the Pats did not use the tapes for sign stealing purposes during the game (2nd halves taped, multiple angles of the same play).

I give the writer credit for the point that some continue to make (which is ridiculous) that the fact the Pats had SF's pick is irrelevant when deciding on a penalty.

But besides that, this is simply the media, with no new scraps, re-writing a column from 8 months ago simply because there is nothing new to bash the Pats on.

PatsFanSince74 05-12-2008 01:16 PM

Re: Fox Sports Mike Rosenberg: Goodell is letting the Patriots off too easy
 
Goodell's boxed himself into a nasty corner.

In October, he made a very misguided attempt at "helping" the Patriots by fudging the full extent of the Pats extracurricular activities over the years and by destroying the tapes and avoiding the spectre of their being endlessly replayed on ESPN and the internet, no doubt, in part, out of deference to the Krafts and their many contributions to the league.

Now, the details are out and the media gets to replay a whole bunch of tapes anyway. So, a story that should have died in October continues to live on. (Reiss' article in yesterday's Globe laid this chronology out pretty clearly.)

So, does Goodell (a) admit that he was wrong by "limiting" the Patriots October punishment (nothing has changed factwise--the Pats apparently copped privately back in the fall to everything that the Walsh tapes show) and now impose more severe punishments for the same "crimes" he's already punished or (b) does he stand up to the abuse he is receiving from the media and that he will receive from Specter and say that the matter has been resolved?

Unfortunately, I'm going with (a).

DefenseRules 05-12-2008 01:17 PM

Re: Fox Sports Mike Rosenberg: Goodell is letting the Patriots off too easy
 
Again SPYGATE 2 started because of a BS report from the Boston Herald about a filiming the Rams walkthru that does not exist. What more do these people want? :bricks:
Is Goodell supposed to punish the team some more for something he already punished them for? These Media "HACKS" have lost their minds.

NEPatriot 05-12-2008 01:20 PM

Re: Fox Sports Mike Rosenberg: Goodell is letting the Patriots off too easy
 
what kind of punishment does he want Goodell to do to Pats.?

It's a spygate week. Tomorrow is going to be the last day for all sport columnists to write about this incident.

BelichickFan 05-12-2008 01:24 PM

Re: Fox Sports Mike Rosenberg: Goodell is letting the Patriots off too easy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PatsFanSince74 (Post 889352)
So, does Goodell (a) admit that he was wrong by "limiting" the Patriots October punishment (nothing has changed factwise--the Pats apparently copped privately back in the fall to everything that the Walsh tapes show) and now impose more severe punishments for the same "crimes" he's already punished or (b) does he stand up to the abuse he is receiving from the media and that he will receive from Specter and say that the matter has been resolved?

Unfortunately, I'm going with (a).

That can almost not happen. He can't go back and say "I picked a punishment, nothing has changed and now I'm going to punish them more just because".

Quote:

Originally Posted by DefenseRules (Post 889353)
Again SPYGATE 2 started because of a BS report from the Boston Herald about a filiming the Rams walkthru that does not exist. What more do these people want? :bricks:
Is Goodell supposed to punish the team some more for something he already punished them for? These Media "HACKS" have lost their minds.

Right, to our knowledge there's nothing more here to see. Nothing has changed.

PatsFanSince74 05-12-2008 01:28 PM

Re: Fox Sports Mike Rosenberg: Goodell is letting the Patriots off too easy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BelichickFan (Post 889363)
That can almost not happen. He can't go back and say "I picked a punishment, nothing has changed and now I'm going to punish them more just because".
...

your assumption that this is a rational process is appealing but unrealistic, IMO. this is a politcal and media process. logic, fairness and rationality have little to do with it.

BelichickFan 05-12-2008 01:31 PM

Re: Fox Sports Mike Rosenberg: Goodell is letting the Patriots off too easy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PatsFanSince74 (Post 889369)
your assumption that this is a rational process is appealing but unrealistic, IMO. this is a politcal and media process. logic, fairness and rationality have little to do with it.

My assumption is that Jolly Roger doesn't want to look like a total imbecile - and changing the penalty for no reason whatsoever would make him look limp and totally useless.

PatsFanSince74 05-12-2008 01:32 PM

Re: Fox Sports Mike Rosenberg: Goodell is letting the Patriots off too easy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DefenseRules (Post 889353)
Again SPYGATE 2 started because of a BS report from the Boston Herald about a filiming the Rams walkthru that does not exist. What more do these people want? :bricks:
Is Goodell supposed to punish the team some more for something he already punished them for? These Media "HACKS" have lost their minds.

i wish you were right, but you assume that people are out for the truth, which they are not. reading the national media indicates that this is morphing into a story about "seven years of cheating that is more extensive than we thought it was and that Goodell didn't fully disclose to us in the fall." if that's the storyline, we lose.


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