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PatriotsReign 05-11-2008 08:11 AM

Is Taping Signals OK?
 
I've been debating someone over on ColtFreaks regarding video taping signals. I've been claiming taping signals is within the rules from certain locations because I read that here countless times.

Then the person I'm debating showed me the following quote (with no links):

"But the following week Anderson issued a memo to all teams reminding them of the policy prohibiting the videotaping of coaching signals anywhere in the stadium."

Is this true? I could use a little help on this from my peers here. I know I'm wasting my time debating on another board, but I'm a stubborn Irishman:mad:

tdw777 05-11-2008 08:47 AM

Re: Is Taping Signals OK?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PatriotsReign (Post 888444)
.."But the following week Anderson issued a memo to all teams reminding them of the policy prohibiting the videotaping of coaching signals anywhere in the stadium."

Is this true? I could use a little help on this from my peers here. I know I'm wasting my time debating on another board, but I'm a stubborn Irishman:mad:

I haven't heard that version. I thought the memo said no videotaping of signals from video equip. from areas accessible to the coaches.

Fixit 05-11-2008 08:47 AM

Re: Is Taping Signals OK?
 
No surprise that a Colt fan has his head up his ass:

"Videotaping of any type, including but not limited to taping of an opponent's offensive or defensive signals, is prohibited on the sidelines, in the coaches' booth, in the locker room, or at any other locations accessible to club staff members during the game."

Then feel free to bring up how Mangini admitted to taping every game from the end zones, but the league said that's okay because he got permission. When the Colt fan has a blank look on his face for ten seconds or so, let him off the hook by saying, "You may or may not know that end zones are in the stadium and accessible to club staff. So, the memo kind of makes no sense, and it's definitely open to interpretation, as the league's actions in two separate cases show."

Hardboiled 05-11-2008 11:02 AM

Re: Is Taping Signals OK?
 
In the recent ESPN Fish article Greg Aiello says the following:

"The rule which the Patriots violated was the policy that prohibits use of equipment for the taping of offensive or defense signals. "


I like the rule/policy thing. Which is it?

I don't know what Aiello is specifically referring to. I would have thought the NFL would have released such a policy document.

tuckeverlasting 05-11-2008 11:14 AM

Re: Is Taping Signals OK?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Fixit (Post 888476)
No surprise that a Colt fan has his head up his ass:

"Videotaping of any type, including but not limited to taping of an opponent's offensive or defensive signals, is prohibited on the sidelines, in the coaches' booth, in the locker room, or at any other locations accessible to club staff members during the game."

Then feel free to bring up how Mangini admitted to taping every game from the end zones, but the league said that's okay because he got permission. When the Colt fan has a blank look on his face for ten seconds or so, let him off the hook by saying, "You may or may not know that end zones are in the stadium and accessible to club staff. So, the memo kind of makes no sense, and it's definitely open to interpretation, as the league's actions in two separate cases show."

anyone can sit in the stands and tape the signals. who'd know ?

PatsWickedPissah 05-11-2008 11:17 AM

Re: Is Taping Signals OK?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tuckeverlasting (Post 888609)
anyone can sit in the stands and tape the signals. who'd know ?

Actually "anyone" cannot. Videocameras are not allowed in Gillette for example. Security WILL stop you or me.

castlelong1 05-11-2008 11:21 AM

Re: Is Taping Signals OK?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PatriotsReign (Post 888444)
I've been debating someone over on ColtFreaks regarding video taping signals. I've been claiming taping signals is within the rules from certain locations because I read that here countless times.

Then the person I'm debating showed me the following quote (with no links):

"But the following week Anderson issued a memo to all teams reminding them of the policy prohibiting the videotaping of coaching signals anywhere in the stadium."

Is this true? I could use a little help on this from my peers here. I know I'm wasting my time debating on another board, but I'm a stubborn Irishman:mad:

That is the memo not the rule.

http://thesportslawprofessor.blogspo...pretation.html

Oh, even ESPN and Clayton think it is OK to steal signals if it is the Patriots.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2696227l

castlelong1 05-11-2008 11:26 AM

Re: Is Taping Signals OK?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PatsWickedPissah (Post 888611)
Actually "anyone" cannot. Videocameras are not allowed in Gillette for example. Security WILL stop you or me.

So they will confiscate your phone?:rolleyes:

Heck, remember dance gate with the Chargers two years ago. The evidence that it was one guy, not a bunch, was a fan video on you tube. Gillette's rules obviously don't apply to SD.

tuckeverlasting 05-11-2008 11:28 AM

Re: Is Taping Signals OK?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PatsWickedPissah (Post 888611)
Actually "anyone" cannot. Videocameras are not allowed in Gillette for example. Security WILL stop you or me.

boy, we took a video camera into qualcomm a few years back and no one said a peep. of course it was small and in my jacket. is that a blanket security thing or does it vary by stadium ?

40yrpatsfan 05-11-2008 11:38 AM

Re: Is Taping Signals OK?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by castlelong1 (Post 888615)
That is the memo not the rule.

http://thesportslawprofessor.blogspo...pretation.html

Oh, even ESPN and Clayton think it is OK to steal signals if it is the Patriots.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2696227l

The Sports Law Professor piece is amazing, I hadn't seen that before. Definitely shows that BB's interpretation of the rule was a reasonable, or at least plausible, one.


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