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MrNathanDrake 09-13-2011 12:00 PM

Week 1 Patriot Player Evaluations
 
Chung continues to emerge as one of our best defenders. Another solid game from him. Led the team in tackles. Great attitude and leadership, it's easy to see why BB was comfortable giving more responsibility to Chung. Looks like he'll be a cornerstone of our secondary for a long time.


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Mayo looked inconsistent. He's a Top 3 true LB in some games, and then invisible in some games like yesterday. Missed a big goal line tackle on Henne on that first drive. He was in position to tackle Henne, but hesitated and froze up for a split second that was enough for Henne to get in and score. I want to chalk this up to lack of contact practices, but either way he's gotta make those stops in the redzone.


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McCourty got beat by Marshall a few times, but he also won a lot of times as well. I dont think it was as bad as some people make it out to be. Keep in mind he was going one on one with one of the best WR in the league. McCourty showed me he is a fierce competitor who loves competition. He got beat on one play, and then came back and almost got an INT in the endzone on the next play.

I said it in another thread and I'll say it again, DMC never was and probably never will be a shutdown corner like Revis or Asomugha. What McCourty is, however, is a playmaker who gets INT's, makes tackles, and forces fumbles. More in the mold of Charles Woodson.


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Ras-I Dowling is a pleasant surprise. I didn't think he'd be starting already. He made some good stops, especially at crucial times in the redzone. If he can stay healthy we're going to have a VERY good duo of Cornerbacks by the time playoffs come around. He has good size and is very physical. Also strong against the run. It's easy to see why BB liked him in the draft and he could end up being a steal.


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Haynesworth had a big impact on the game and was the most disruptive DLineman on our team. He caused alot of hurries and hit Henne a couple times. It won't show up in stats, but Big Al's impact was definitely felt yesterday. His post-game interviews are positive and he seems genuinely happy to play for the Patriots. Give him another month of conditioning to get his legs back under him, and he's going to look like a downright STEAL for us. I think he'll continue to get even better. BB is the only coach in the NFL that could tame him and get his utmost respect.

He'll never be the "best DT in the league" anymore since Ngata and Suh are #1 and #2. But he could be right behind those guys if he gets in better shape and plays to his full potential.


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Myron Pryor continues to impress me. He gets good penetration and makes plays. Solid back up in our rotation.


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Brandon Spikes seems to have serious mental/emotional issues. Go check his recent tweets that were made right after the game. He's saying he feels "lost and confused in this cold world"... right after our Win. I don't think that type of crap has a place on our team. He's not nearly good enough or proven enough to be pulling saying that. I can see us drafting another MLB next year, with Fletcher and Mayo as our OLB's. Regardless of who you are or where you got drafted, BB will not hesitate to get rid of an insubordinate.


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The "other Safety" was invisible tonight. I barely saw Sergio Brown or Barret last night.


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Solder faced one of the best pass rushers in the league and dominated him. Wake had 1 sack. But we threw the ball 48 times. Where was Wake on every other passing play? His presence was barely felt last night, thanks to Solder's amazing protecting. The broadcast kept showing replays of Solder throwing Wake around and ragdolling him. Warren Sapp was flat out laughing about it on NFLnetwork.

The Offensive Line in general was a bright spot yesterday. Waters was impressive coming in after only being on our team for a week and playing so many snaps. He's a real roadgrader in the run game and adds a lot of nastiness to that OLine. Great pick up.

Connelly was serviceable at Center and should be our new starter since Koppen has a broken ankle.


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Gronk and Hernandez. What can I say that hasnt been said already? Both look like Pro Bowlers out there. Brady looks to both of them as go-to guys. Gronk looks unstoppable and Hernandez looks more and more confident. Gotta love how AHern threw his hand up a la Randy Moss and made a jumping catch.


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I thought 85 would work out fine for us, but I'm starting to doubt it. His body language and demeanor isnt the best. He made a silly penalty that ruined a huge Gronkowski catch. There were times when Brady would be sitting on the sidelines watching the game, and 85 would go and stand right infront of him. Kind of a "give me attention" type thing. Even when Welker caught the 99 yrd TD pass, and everyone was happy and celebrating, 85 was the only player that didnt look excited and happy.

Brady is at his best when he's spreading the ball around. I sure hope 85 doesnt expect to be a superstar Pro Bowler here, because we don't need him to be and he won't.


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The defense has too much confidence in Brady to win games. Miami shouldnt have scored as much as they did. We shouldnt be letting teams get points on us in garbage time. I cut them some slack since it's Week 1 and they were playing in extreme humidity, but they need to put less on Brady to win games for them and start clamping down.


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Woodhead and BJGE havent missed a beat since last year. Can't wait to see Ridley and Vereen later this year. They should still be fresh by playoff time and really hitting their stride by then.

SanAngeloState 09-13-2011 12:13 PM

Re: Week 1 Patriot Player Evaluations
 
That is a great post. Thank you for that.

I agree in your assessments. I'm not so sure about Dowling, sometimes he seemed to have his back to the ball so much. Little concerned about his quickness...at least he's willing to tackle though and is aggressive.

Haynesworth looked great and I concur about Ocho...I said he was a "no go" and I hope I"m wrong. I think he's having trouble learning a complicated playbook for one thing. I noticed his negative 40 yard play. Also another favorite around here was called for offsides the only time I noticed him out there.

Rob0729 09-13-2011 12:24 PM

Re: Week 1 Patriot Player Evaluations
 
Quote:

Brandon Spikes seems to have serious mental/emotional issues. Go check his recent tweets that were made right after the game. He's saying he feels "lost and confused in this cold world"... right after our Win. I don't think that type of crap has a place on our team. He's not nearly good enough or proven enough to be pulling saying that. I can see us drafting another MLB next year, with Fletcher and Mayo as our OLB's. Regardless of who you are or where you got drafted, BB will not hesitate to get rid of an insubordinate.
LOL! Way to manufacture a controversy. I didn't realize the Pats played Sunday. Last night must have been a rebroadcast of the game because this tweet was posted on September 11th.

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Uncle Rico 09-13-2011 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob0729 (Post 2681072)
LOL! Way to manufacture a controversy. I didn't realize the Pats played Sunday. Last night must have been a rebroadcast of the game because this tweet was posted on September 11th.

Twitter

Dude sure has his own Twitter style. But I still think "It is what it is , but it ain't what u think" is a great line; he said that last year, right?

MrNathanDrake 09-13-2011 12:36 PM

Re: Week 1 Patriot Player Evaluations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob0729 (Post 2681072)
LOL! Way to manufacture a controversy. I didn't realize the Pats played Sunday. Last night must have been a rebroadcast of the game because this tweet was posted on September 11th.

Twitter


Sure. Regardless of weather it was Sunday or Monday night.... it's not a good thing.


Here is his most recent Tweet from 1 minute ago

"Mind in one place,Heart in another...... 1 minute ago"


He also has a picture of himself as a Florida Gator on his twitter... not as a Patriot.


Brandon Spikes has the body of a man, but the emotions of a child. The immaturity and lack of professionalism displayed on his twitter is baffling.

Rob0729 09-13-2011 12:47 PM

Re: Week 1 Patriot Player Evaluations
 
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Originally Posted by MrNathanDrake (Post 2681087)
Sure. Regardless of weather it was Sunday or Monday night.... it's not a good thing.


Here is his most recent Tweet from 1 minute ago

"Mind in one place,Heart in another...... 1 minute ago"


He also has a picture of himself as a Florida Gator on his twitter... not as a Patriot.


Brandon Spikes has the body of a man, but the emotions of a child. The immaturity and lack of professionalism displayed on his twitter is baffling.

You do realize what the significance of September 11th is don't you? I took it as a comment of the significance of that day. I heard while watching the Ravens/Steelers game on TV, Brady bowed his head when they did a momement of silence for the victims of 9/11 which is a clear sign he regrets resigning with the Patriots.

As for his pictures, his current picture is him on a boat with what is probably his girlfriend as his avatar and him playing cards for his background.

As for his most recent tweet, you have no idea what it means. Since today is an off day for the team, maybe he is wishing he was in the film room.

Jesus, people need to stop analyzing tweets as if they mean anything. You look at a lot of tweets from players around the league and they are just as bad or worse.

Now that Meriweather and Butler are gone, I swear people are looking for a new whipping boy and trying to manufacture controversy.

aluminum seats 09-13-2011 12:51 PM

Re: Week 1 Patriot Player Evaluations
 
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Originally Posted by Rob0729 (Post 2681125)
You do realize what the significance of September 11th is don't you? I took it as a comment of the significance of that day. I heard while watching the Ravens/Steelers game on TV, Brady bowed his head when they did a momement of silence for the victims of 9/11 which is a clear sign he regrets resigning with the Patriots.

As for his pictures, his current picture is him on a boat with what is probably his girlfriend as his avatar and him playing cards for his background.

As for his most recent tweet, you have no idea what it means. Since today is an off day for the team, maybe he is wishing he was in the film room.

Jesus, people need to stop analyzing tweets as if they mean anything. You look at a lot of tweets from players around the league and they are just as bad or worse.

Now that Meriweather and Butler are gone, I swear people are looking for a new whipping boy and trying to manufacture controversy.

I hear you, but to be fair it does seem as though he might not presently be the best teammate. Just a hunch. Doesn't mean he can't grow up.

I think it's impossible to read too much into his tweets, by the way--it's like they're written in Martian.

Bigatrop 09-13-2011 12:52 PM

Re: Week 1 Patriot Player Evaluations
 
I like all your assessments except the McCourty and Spikes ones.

I think McCourty could be a shutdown CB, he has all the skills and competitiveness to be one. I don't like to label him a playmaker bc then he gets thrown in the same category as Asante Samuels, who is more a defensive risk than defensive asset. He may never be a Revis, but he will be a shutdown corner. Remember, the dude is a sophmore starting in his first game of the season against one of the best WRs in the league. Not only that, but he is also a new captain. Alot of responsibility to put on someone who just finished their first professional year.

Regarding Spikes, I think it's important to remember how out of context twitter can be. Who knows if he is talking about a girlfriend of his, or another relationship. It could also mean that he is upset that he wasn't on the field. (not to mention the tweets were from Sunday, not Monday....HUUUUUUGE DIFFERENCE!!) My point is simple, he was outstanding his first year, is apparently a locker-room leader, and isn't having problems with anyone, per Reiss. I'm going to chalk your assessment up to not liking him prior to this season.

State 09-13-2011 12:53 PM

Re: Week 1 Patriot Player Evaluations
 
I've got my doubts about Guyton. We all know he can't get off blocks, though he's an elite athlete.

I'm just not sure he's a football player. For instance, he had a chance to make contact with the Miami QB when that big ahole ran it in. Chung and Mayo, true football players, both dove to make contact.

Guyton played touch football.

I want more #52 back there and Spikes when he returns.

MrNathanDrake 09-13-2011 12:59 PM

Re: Week 1 Patriot Player Evaluations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob0729 (Post 2681125)
You do realize what the significance of September 11th is don't you? I took it as a comment of the significance of that day. I heard while watching the Ravens/Steelers game on TV, Brady bowed his head when they did a momement of silence for the victims of 9/11 which is a clear sign he regrets resigning with the Patriots.

As for his pictures, his current picture is him on a boat with what is probably his girlfriend as his avatar and him playing cards for his background.

As for his most recent tweet, you have no idea what it means. Since today is an off day for the team, maybe he is wishing he was in the film room.

Jesus, people need to stop analyzing tweets as if they mean anything. You look at a lot of tweets from players around the league and they are just as bad or worse.

Now that Meriweather and Butler are gone, I swear people are looking for a new whipping boy and trying to manufacture controversy.

1. His tweet had nothing to do with Sept 11. It had to do with his own emotions of feeling lost and confused.

2. Spikes traveled with the team to Miami, but Did Not Play the entire game yesterday.

3. Regardless of what exactly his tweets mean, the fact is they display a lot of mental and emotionally immaturity. Spikes is a grown man in his 20's who has finished College, and he's making tweets that you would expect from a 15 year old girl on her period.


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