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PATRIOTSFANINPA 03-04-2008 04:04 PM

I think the AFC East division becomes MUCH tougher with other 3 teams FA pickups
 
I still think the Patriots are going to be very much expected to win the AFC East again but with the changing of the FO in Miami,The reloaded defensive front 7 in Buffalo and a potential near all-pro Offensive Line with New York, its going to take very late in the season for NE to wrap this division up.

Of course this is still very early in FA and the draft is 7 weeks away but as of now I think the other 3 teams have taken a solid step upward to become a challenge to the Patriots but Miami is probably still 2 years away from being a serious threat in the division and the Jets are several defensive playmakers away.

The Jets weakness appears to be in several areas of defense but I can see whoever is the QB should have a decent year and should have plenty of time to find open receivers with the very solid O line the team apparently has,Unfortunately they will probably have to put 25 points or more every game to win often and stay competitive in the division.

Dick Jauron took a Buffalo team decimated with injuries to 40% of thier starters and with many JAGs playing in thier place the team was probably the hardest working group to overcome it all and get what appeared to be a 2-14 team up to .500 by the end of the season,This team definately did the utmost possible of what they could do with the players they had and with the superb first days in FA and bolstering the weak defensive front with quality players and with Edwards who may be the next good QB,I think Buffalo may be the most dangerous team and a load to beat in the division this year and I think they have a legit shot to win it but in the end NE takes the East very late,possibly not decided till week 15

So since theres not really any players out there that would make a drastic difference to any of the 4 teams and the draft is not as strong as in the past few year,I say the division goes something like this....

New England 12-4
Buffalo 10-6
NY Jets 9-7
Miami 6-10

LoganMankinsPancakeBlocks 03-04-2008 04:06 PM

Re: I think the AFC East division becomes MUCH tougher with other 3 teams FA pickups
 
Tom Brady. Trent Edwards. Chad Pennington/Kellen Clemens. John Beck.

'nuff said.

PATRIOTSFANINPA 03-04-2008 04:08 PM

Re: I think the AFC East division becomes MUCH tougher with other 3 teams FA pickups
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LoganMankinsPancakeBlocks (Post 825567)
Tom Brady. Trent Edwards. Chad Pennington/Kellen Clemens. John Beck.

'nuff said.

Have you seen enough of Trent Edwards or John Beck to inidcate that they suck so bad?

Trent played sporadically and Beck came in late

Too early to judge those guys IMO but Edwards did have some brief bright spots during 2007

mangenious 03-04-2008 04:13 PM

Re: I think the AFC East division becomes MUCH tougher with other 3 teams FA pickups
 
I think Edwards has potential to be a solid QB. not a game changer but a guy who could move the offense and not make dumb mistakes

TruthSeeker 03-04-2008 04:18 PM

Re: I think the AFC East division becomes MUCH tougher with other 3 teams FA pickups
 
I think the Jets have regressed with their free agent signings. It's all about getting cost effective players; the Jets signings have indicated that cost effectiveness is not their philosophy.

Of course, this looks at the situation over a span of years (there are a number of examples of teams mortgaging the future for the hope of today and it sometimes works out), but the bottom line is that none of the other 3 AFC East teams are going to match the Patriots next year; their best hope is in 2009. There's a lot of time between now and then and a lot of potential for change.

mangenious 03-04-2008 04:21 PM

Re: I think the AFC East division becomes MUCH tougher with other 3 teams FA pickups
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TruthSeeker (Post 825585)
I think the Jets have regressed with their free agent signings. It's all about getting cost effective players; the Jets signings have indicated that cost effectiveness is not their philosophy.

:confused:But their talent level for this season will be way better then last years team, how is that regressing?

upstater1 03-04-2008 04:21 PM

Re: I think the AFC East division becomes MUCH tougher with other 3 teams FA pickups
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PATRIOTSFANINPA (Post 825573)
Have you seen enough of Trent Edwards or John Beck to inidcate that they suck so bad?

Trent played sporadically and Beck came in late

Too early to judge those guys IMO but Edwards did have some brief bright spots during 2007

I watched Edwards play 8 games.

He's NOT the answer in Buffalo.

No arm on the kid.

upstater1 03-04-2008 04:22 PM

Re: I think the AFC East division becomes MUCH tougher with other 3 teams FA pickups
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mangenious (Post 825579)
I think Edwards has potential to be a solid QB. not a game changer but a guy who could move the offense and not make dumb mistakes

It's exactly the opposite. The kid made horrible mistakes at the worst possible moment.

I'll grant you however that he was just a rookie, but I saw him blowing ballgames by throwing unnecessary picks with the lead!

LoganMankinsPancakeBlocks 03-04-2008 04:40 PM

Re: I think the AFC East division becomes MUCH tougher with other 3 teams FA pickups
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by upstater1 (Post 825593)
I watched Edwards play 8 games.

He's NOT the answer in Buffalo.

No arm on the kid.

I saw plenty of him as well and I'm with you, not high on him. I think the kid is destined to be a solid backup QB and that he got overrated due to playing a weak schedule and doing nothing more than manage the game vs. crappy teams.

I can't get over how much he was being talked up during that MNF game vs. Dallas because his team was in the game at the time. Couldn't they see he was the main reason they lost the game and that the rest of the team played phenominally that game? I guess not, but I definitely saw it.

Until these teams get a real quarterback or until we no longer have Tom Brady, they aren't a real threat to us.

bostonia3333 03-04-2008 04:50 PM

Re: I think the AFC East division becomes MUCH tougher with other 3 teams FA pickups
 
Pats will go 8-0 in the division rather easily. The AFC East has no qbs that can challenge the Pats. Gotta have a qb that can throw 35+ times with confidence. Dinking and dunking is a recipe for disaster against the Pats. Don't worry about the AFC EAST.

I'm worried that we're not as good as Indy anymore. I will be really really sick if Indy wins the SB next year. Looks like they are the team to beat now with all the decimation we've had on defense. Can you imagine a Manning-Manning-Manning SB winner? That CANNOT happen at all costs. Just gotta hope Peyton has an off year or we get lucky and someone like SD or JAX knock em off.


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