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DarrylStingley 03-02-2008 08:59 AM

If the Pats are Banking on Moss Giving them a Last Chance to Match...
 
Do people think that the Pats are saying "go ahead, take a look at the market, but come back to us with what you get and we'll match it if we can"?

Because if they are doing that, I think they're demented.

Who was the last player in any sport (other than Bernie Williams and Andy Pettitte) who hit the open market and then signed with the original team after giving that team the chance to match. Maybe that happened with Mike Lowell, too.

But the Pats have tried that approach before and it's never seemed to work.

I hope they aren't playing that game here.

Thoughts?

Tyler.Durden 03-02-2008 09:02 AM

Re: If the Pats are Banking on Moss Giving them a Last Chance to Match....
 
So you think he is a Carlos Boozer

patsgo 03-02-2008 09:04 AM

Re: If the Pats are Banking on Moss Giving them a Last Chance to Match....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DarrylStingley (Post 821271)
Do people think that the Pats are saying "go ahead, take a look at the market, but come back to us with what you get and we'll match it if we can"?

Because if they are doing that, I think they're demented.

Who was the last player in any sport (other than Bernie Williams and Andy Pettitte) who hit the open market and then signed with the original team after giving that team the chance to match. Maybe that happened with Mike Lowell, too.

But the Pats have tried that approach before and it's never seemed to work.

I hope they aren't playing that game here.

Thoughts?

that game didnt work out very well with vinetari or branch, if hes talking to other teams hes good as gone

DarrylStingley 03-02-2008 09:05 AM

Re: If the Pats are Banking on Moss Giving them a Last Chance to Match....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyler.Durden (Post 821273)
So you think he is a Carlos Boozer

No. I think he's a normal human being and that if he starts getting wooed by other teams, and those teams tell him how much they want and need him and that they'll pay him more money -- a lot more money -- than NE, that the normal response is to "F it, I'm doing this deal!"

And I'm saying that if the pats are planning on Moss saying "hold that thought, I'm giving NE last licks," that they are taking a big risk that Moss is different than most humanoids.

Roidney73 03-02-2008 09:08 AM

Re: If the Pats are Banking on Moss Giving them a Last Chance to Match....
 
Stallworth just got a SEVEN YEAR CONTRACT and Bernard Berrian just got huge jack. The Pats were plain stupid to not have a deal done at 12:01am on the first minute of free agency. Make no mistake, Randy wants money and Randy will get a ridiculous contract. He might give the Pats a 1million dollar discount as Schefter reported but really, what's 1million dollars? I'm starting to hope the Pats don't re-sign him at all, that's a lot of dough!

Mack Herron 03-02-2008 09:33 AM

Re: If the Pats are Banking on Moss Giving them a Last Chance to Match....
 
ARod. But I agree that (a) Moss is dissatisfied with the Pats offer and (b) Moss is likely to get a better offer from someone else. Would that make him decide the Pats offer is suddenly acceptable? I doubt it. Would the Pats suddenly scrap their best offer, toss all the analysis that dictates their distribution of cash and match another offer? I doubt it.

RussFrancis 03-02-2008 09:40 AM

Re: If the Pats are Banking on Moss Giving them a Last Chance to Match...
 
If its gonna cost $12mil per for 3 or 4 years, then Im not gonna miss him. That's just too much for a guy that didnt get us a ring with him. And Im certainly not blaming him for us not getting the ring. But with 50plus players to roster, giving that much of it to a position that the Pats have proven in the past they win without a stud just doesnt make sense. He said he wanted to stay in NE. He should know how things work here, and WHY it is theyve been able to keep the nucleus of a championship team together. No one player outside of Brady is worth sacrificing an organizational philosophy. If its money he's after, let him chase it. If its legacy, respect and possibly a title, then he'll stay. it'll end up being entirely up to him. until Moss makes his decision, I'll reserve judgement.

flasox27 03-02-2008 09:40 AM

Re: If the Pats are Banking on Moss Giving them a Last Chance to Match...
 
Let me ask you what team is going to give him the money he is looking for and wants to play for. I think he will be back.

stinkypete 03-02-2008 09:50 AM

Re: If the Pats are Banking on Moss Giving them a Last Chance to Match...
 
No game here, the Pats won't pay Moss $10 million per year in a long term deal. They'll give him a shirt term deal for big money, or a long term deal that is cap reasonable. If another team is willing to offer Moss an Asante $amuel deal, they're all the more foolish for it. Only quarterbacks are worth that kind of cash.

hernandeztribe 03-02-2008 09:56 AM

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:eat3:

I was thinking that maybe they were secretly restructuring Brady's contract to make his cap hit lower and bring him up to a market rate for a #1 QB. Once that was done , then they would sign Moss, sign Gaffney, extend Wilfork, extend Mankins and go after a couple of free agents and still have money for the draft. I hope that Moss returns.

it would be nice to see

moss
welker
gaffney
jackson


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