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Urgent 07-21-2011 09:16 AM

CBA Approval Status
 
Space to discuss current status of the CBA as it inches toward completion.

A real shame that the players were not able to vote on it yesterday, after months to prepare. Let's hope they do today. One more signal that they are in no hurry to get back on the field. Each day it's open creates an opportunity for one more request, one more complication.

As Kevin Mawae clearly stated: "Our timeline is that which gives us the best deal for the players." Which should be his position, of course.

Today could still be the day both sides start to approve the process.

Presumably, if the player review drags long enough to miss a preseason week, league revenues will be lower and the cap will have to be adjusted.

patriot lifer 07-21-2011 09:34 AM

Re: CBA Approval Status
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Urgent (Post 2593073)
Space to discuss current status of the CBA as it inches toward completion.

A real shame that the players were not able to vote on it yesterday, after months to prepare. Let's hope they do today. One more signal that they are in no hurry to get back on the field. Each day it's open creates an opportunity for one more request, one more complication.

As Kevin Mawae clearly stated: "Our timeline is that which gives us the best deal for the players." Which should be his position, of course.

Today could still be the day both sides start to approve the process.

Presumably, if the player review drags long enough to miss a preseason week, league revenues will be lower and the cap will have to be adjusted.

Sounds like the owners are really pushing for it to be done, while the players want some last items discussed. Lucky for the players, they're drawing the ire of pretty much everyone else (myself included).

captain insano 07-21-2011 10:00 AM

Re: CBA Approval Status
 
i am so unbelievably sick and tired of this cba bull *****. get the god damn thing done already:mad:

BlueThunder 07-21-2011 10:07 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by captain insano (Post 2593116)
i am so unbelievably sick and tired of this cba bull *****. Get the god damn thing done already:mad:

this.............

DefenseRules 07-21-2011 10:26 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by captain insano (Post 2593116)
i am so unbelievably sick and tired of this cba bull *****. get the god damn thing done already:mad:

AMEN! :mad:

Rob0729 07-21-2011 10:31 AM

Re: CBA Approval Status
 
Contrary what Chester Pitts says, the deal will be done by this weekend. The players can't hold up the process going after things that easily spun to be greedy (special consideration for plantiffs, $320 million in benefits "lost" last year). All they can do is play a game of chicken with the owners and see if they blink first. Maybe the owners will give concessions if they think the players will delay the start of the football year by a week or two. Or maybe the owners will think the players are bluffing and call them on their bluff and then the players will likely back down. It's all a last minute powerplay IMHO and it will be all over by this weekend.

MoLewisrocks 07-21-2011 12:29 PM

Re: CBA Approval Status
 
You've been wrong before...

I think push is coming to shove as the owners apparently play to vote on a settlement and CBA by 5:30 today whether the players are ready to settle or not and then kick the ball back into their court with the caveat that they will start losing $35M per day off the deal once delays start impacting the pre season schedule...and that will take about a million a day off each teams cap. Take it or leave it time.

mgteich 07-21-2011 12:54 PM

Re: CBA Approval Status
 
It seems reasonable to reduce the 2011 cap by $7M for each pre-season game missed. I suspect that many of the 20 teams that are $10M or more under might welcome such a result.

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Originally Posted by MoLewisrocks (Post 2593279)
You've been wrong before...

I think push is coming to shove as the owners apparently play to vote on a settlement and CBA by 5:30 today whether the players are ready to settle or not and then kick the ball back into their court with the caveat that they will start losing $35M per day off the deal once delays start impacting the pre season schedule...and that will take about a million a day off each teams cap. Take it or leave it time.


PatsWickedPissah 07-21-2011 01:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mgteich (Post 2593297)
It seems reasonable to reduce the 2011 cap by $7M for each pre-season game missed. I suspect that many of the 20 teams that are $10M or more under might welcome such a result.

I don't get it. Don't contracted players have their salaries amortized proportionately even including something for pre-season? If so any cap reduction is met by an expense reduction and it's a wash in a 1st order analysis.

MoLewisrocks 07-21-2011 02:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by PatsWickedPissah (Post 2593306)
I don't get it. Don't contracted players have their salaries amortized proportionately even including something for pre-season? If so any cap reduction is met by an expense reduction and it's a wash in a 1st order analysis.

For those under contract, sort of - although maybe they get asked to restructure... Less money for FA and everyone else if the cap shrinks...

De just wasted another 5 minutes of my life with his BS presser... This is all a stall by the executive committee and Kessler to try and squeeze another ounce out of the process.


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