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MrBigglesWorth 02-10-2008 04:32 PM

The final verdict: Coaching Lost the Big Game
 
I have seen alot of threads "don't blame the defense", "don't blame the offense".

The final verdict is coaching blew this game for not managing it 100% correctly and not making adjustments. They coached about 98% correctly but the Giants coached 100% correctly.

1. The Pats never made adjustments like they did in the San Diego game. This was clearly illistrated in the second half.

Why don't you milk Welker if no one could keep up with him? He should ahve had 20 catches.

You have a red hot Maroney and you choose to run 16 times and pass 48. I saw very little max protect.

Kyle Brady singled up on Osi? Kaczur singled up on Strahan?

2. 4th and 13.... no need to mention. been stated in previous threads.

3. The last defensive play bring the house. Again no need to tallk about.



Coaching had a B+ day again a Giants coaching staff that had an A+ day.

SammyBlueCat 02-10-2008 04:36 PM

Re: The final verdict: Coaching Lost the Big Game
 
What exactly did the coaches do with the week off?

Rocky 02-10-2008 05:15 PM

Re: The final verdict: Coaching Lost the Big Game
 
[/QUOTE]Coaching had a B+ day again a Giants coaching staff that had an A+ day.[/QUOTE]

Agree with the Giants coaching being perfect, however, giving the Pats coaches a B+ is very generous.

1)Very few, if any draw plays were called. When you have a defense whose ends are in the backfield right off of the snap, draws need to be called to keep the defense honest. Or middle screens.

2)The vertical pass patterns were bad calls. There just wasn't enough time to execute them. More quick passes were needed, maybe more 5 wide...pick apart their secondary, go to the hurry up in order to wear out the D-Line. We saw a little of it on the last drive.

3)Gave up on the run in the second half. Given the pounding Brady was taking, why not give him some rest and play smashmouth like against SD? They weren't moving the ball through the air anyhow, so it wouldn't have hurt to try.

4)Horrible defensive call on the Plax TD.

5)The play calling on the last drive was bad too. 35 seconds with 3 TO's does not mean they needed to just chuck the ball way down the field. They could have used Faulk/Welker in the middle of field and been at midfield after two plays.

upstater1 02-10-2008 05:20 PM

Re: The final verdict: Coaching Lost the Big Game
 
The people saying that was a bad call on the Plax TD must not have watched the Patriots call all out blitzes at crucial points of games every year for the last 7.

The Patriots always do this. Always.

PATRIOT64 02-10-2008 05:25 PM

Re: The final verdict: Coaching Lost the Big Game
 
Its a rarity when I say this but....

Bill Belichick & staff totally sucked with the management of calls on both sides of offense and defense in that game.

Like I said it does not happen too often but BB and his staff were outcoached and outplayed that day and the staffs playcalling and decisions sucked almost as if NEs coaching staff was the Dolphins in disguise.

Maybe the worst gameplan in BB and staff since 2002 - and I hope not to see another any time soon and go back to the Brilliance of this staff's minds again

MoLewisrocks 02-10-2008 05:25 PM

Re: The final verdict: Coaching Lost the Big Game
 
So who decided you were in charge of determining the final verdict...

I think that is best left to those who actually know what they are talking about.

MrBigglesWorth 02-10-2008 05:29 PM

Re: The final verdict: Coaching Lost the Big Game
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MoLewisrocks (Post 794964)
So who decided you were in charge of determining the final verdict...

I think that is best left to those who actually know what they are talking about.

Oh Little Mo Peep.... don't get mad. I decided I was in charge just like other decided they make the offical game thread which always baffled me as if there was an unofficial one.

PATRIOT64 02-10-2008 05:31 PM

Re: The final verdict: Coaching Lost the Big Game
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MoLewisrocks (Post 794964)
So who decided you were in charge of determining the final verdict...

I think that is best left to those who actually know what they are talking about.

I think 2 things stand out which makes the OPs opinion a legitamate beef is the decision of the 4th and 13 and the blitz at the end which resulted of the winnig TD by leaving an erratic Hobbs one of one with the best receiver the Giants have - those 2 were not too smart IMO

Pats726 02-10-2008 05:35 PM

Re: The final verdict: Coaching Lost the Big Game
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MoLewisrocks (Post 794964)
So who decided you were in charge of determining the final verdict...

I think that is best left to those who actually know what they are talking about.

I agree MO.....Although there are things I do not understand..and wish I could. The touchdown pass with Hobbs on Burress? Did they not think he needed help? The last drive and going for the big bomb; too much time taken up and a lesser chance of success. And the 4th and 13..not only no field goa attempt, nut a long pass instead of a shorter one for a first down. I wish I knew the answers to these..as to why. I'm not at all callig for the coaches' heads...not even blaming them FOR the result..as I think there were OTHER things as well..but I do wonder. players, coaches all had an off day. AND the Giants played great did the things they had to to win. and I agree it is up to those that KNOW what they are talking about...

Jimke 02-10-2008 05:38 PM

Re: The final verdict: Coaching Lost the Big Game
 
We may be finding out how much Romeo Crenell and Charlie Weis

were worth to the Pats.


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