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justinb 01-19-2008 05:44 AM

if Im the chargers, i do this....
 
1. Blitz Brady - all day long ( as long as there is 3 wideouts or less ) on those plays

2. Hit the pats recievers at the line, hold them, pull the jersey... take the chance that the refs dont see it, and hope to get lucky. Big deal if you get penalized....keep trying.

3. Let Volek start, give him the confidence, and let him throw it 35 times.

4. pass it to LT more than let him run. Belicheck will take LT out of the running game plan, so instead of fighting it....go with it. Hit LT with screens in open space.

what do you guys think?

RespectthePats 01-19-2008 06:11 AM

Re: if Im the chargers, i do this....
 
I don't care what game plan SD comes up with. Somehow the words
"Billy Volek" = (please don't put this on my shoulders!!!) AND "Charger victory" just don't go together!:D

JR4 01-19-2008 08:03 AM

Re: if Im the chargers, i do this....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by justinb (Post 751451)
1. Blitz Brady - all day long ( as long as there is 3 wideouts or less ) on those plays

Problem is ... this is Tom Brady. I found it interesting Tom said decisions
had to be made in 2 seconds as QB. Tom has trained himself to make
decisions in as little as 2 seconds if he has to. Even the best blitz
can't beat that. They might get to him a few times but much more.



2. Hit the pats recievers at the line, hold them, pull the jersey... take the chance that the refs dont see it, and hope to get lucky. Big deal if you get penalized....keep trying.

This is good ... as long as you don't lose containment and have a Moss
or Stallworth breaking free for a TD. :D. Most DBs are going to try and keep
Moss in front of them and hope for help if need.


3. Let Volek start, give him the confidence, and let him throw it 35 times.

I think Volek's lack of experience in pressure game will be his biggest problem. This is a game like none he has ever played and he hasn't played
a 60 minute game for years now. Put the pressure on him is not the right
thing. IMO. Let him pass for 20 or less times and only those passes that
have a higher probability of success.


4. pass it to LT more than let him run. Belicheck will take LT out of the running game plan, so instead of fighting it....go with it. Hit LT with screens in open space.

This is good but how long before PATs adjust to it or bat one of those
screens passes into the air resulting in a D TD?


what do you guys think?

I feel SD is out matched here if Rivers and Gates are not 100%.
They hold two key positons in the SD offense that are
critical to their offense. Two positions without comparable backups.

justinb 01-19-2008 08:10 AM

Re: if Im the chargers, i do this....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JR4 (Post 751536)
I feel SD is out matched here if Rivers and Gates are not 100%.
They hold two key positons in the SD offense that are
critical to their offense. Two positions without comparable backups.

i agree with your quotes, but if the Pats score 28-31 , which is close to a guarentee, its basically means, the chargers need 5 TD's.

how do they get those 5td's?

1. Shorten the field, which means, WHEN the Pats punt, make it only 60 yards to paydirt.

2. can't run the ball often, will eat up TOO much clock for the chargers. Chargers want to score quick. ( some may say, well then you give the Pats more opportunties. - this is true, but you have to try to assume your D scheme may work )

3. Volek will have to throw 30+ to score 35 points.... if he throws 20, even if he goings 16 for 20. thats what 220 yards with 2 tds. NOT ENOUGH

chrisfx811 01-19-2008 08:24 AM

Re: if Im the chargers, i do this....
 
Chargers may be able to blitz Brady more effectively than most teams, because their front 7 are quick, and their secondary seems pretty big & strong.
But, with Brady's reg season rating against the blitz being 118.something, I think I like the Pat's chances with that.

I watched some of the replay of last year's playoff game, and what I noticed was:
Brady was able to complete a decent amount of passes, but YAC was not very good. That should be different with this year's crop of receivers.

Brady had some boneheaded turnovers. He seems to have rectified that this year, ya might say.

The Chargers had excellent field position all game long, and still didn't put up a lot of points @ home. I don't think the addition of Chambers will be enough, especially considering LdT & Gates are hobbled, and they will have either a limited Rivers or a back up qb in.

We won't have Rosie this time, but we will have AD, Seau, Rodney, & Seymour all healthy.

TheGodInAGreyHoodie 01-19-2008 08:27 AM

Re: if Im the chargers, i do this....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by justinb (Post 751545)
i agree with your quotes, but if the Pats score 28-31 , which is close to a guarentee, its basically means, the chargers need 5 TD's.

how do they get those 5td's?

1. Shorten the field, which means, WHEN the Pats punt, make it only 60 yards to paydirt.

2. can't run the ball often, will eat up TOO much clock for the chargers. Chargers want to score quick. ( some may say, well then you give the Pats more opportunties. - this is true, but you have to try to assume your D scheme may work )

3. Volek will have to throw 30+ to score 35 points.... if he throws 20, even if he goings 16 for 20. thats what 220 yards with 2 tds. NOT ENOUGH

Keep in mind the score of the Colts game should have been 7 points higher for the Bolts. (that was a td at the end of the 2nd q) If the Bolts win it will probably be because of 7 or 14 points coming from the def or turnovers with great field position.

JR4 01-19-2008 08:30 AM

Re: if Im the chargers, i do this....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by justinb (Post 751545)
i agree with your quotes, but if the Pats score 28-31 , which is close to a guarentee, its basically means, the chargers need 5 TD's.

how do they get those 5td's?

1. Shorten the field, which means, WHEN the Pats punt, make it only 60 yards to paydirt.

Easier said than done. They might get such short fields once on a kickoff
but hopefully not at all on a punt.


2. can't run the ball often, will eat up TOO much clock for the chargers. Chargers want to score quick. ( some may say, well then you give the Pats more opportunties. - this is true, but you have to try to assume your D scheme may work )

Actually if they can move the chains and slowly make their way down field
and in the process eat up a lot of the clock this would be a great thing
for them. Why? Because TB is sitting on the Bench :mad: If he there the PATs
aren't scoring points.


3. Volek will have to throw 30+ to score 35 points.... if he throws 20, even if he goings 16 for 20. thats what 220 yards with 2 tds. NOT ENOUGH

Again it would be enough if 'Time of Possession' is theirs and they limit PATs
to 24 or so and to go with Volek's TD they get a rushing TD and maybe
some defensive points. Remember PATs great Offense DEPENDS a lot on
PATs D getting them the ball back as soon as possibile

Chargers best hope in this game is for a low scoring game and being close
to the PATs score in the 4th and hoping the ball bounces right for them
a few times. IMO
If their D can't keep PATs to less than 30 points ... they won't win. IMO.

chrisfx811 01-19-2008 08:35 AM

Re: if Im the chargers, i do this....
 
Jax's offense operated with efficiency last week, and their defense made Brady earn his way up the field methodically, and limited the Pats to only 8 total possessions.
1 ended the half w/ 9 seconds to play, so it was really 7 possessions, which is unbelievable considering most games see 11-13 possessions per game.
The Pats put up 31 in only 7 possessions.

SD's chances lie in the turnover margin.

JR4 01-19-2008 08:50 AM

Re: if Im the chargers, i do this....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JR4 (Post 751571)
Chargers best hope in this game is for a low scoring game and being close
to the PATs score in the 4th and hoping the ball bounces right for them
a few times. IMO
If their D can't keep PATs to less than 30 points ... they won't win. IMO.

One more thought here.

The best team to beat the PATs is one that efficiently and slowly moves offense.
One that moves the chains 4 or 5 times on a drive and even takes a risk
on 4th and 1 or 2 and converting and then scores from the red zone.

To go with this, a Defense that cuts a few of PATs drives short a few times
with no points and a D that causes one or two turn overs during the game.

If this happened the 4thQ would be close and there could be chance for a win except TB is super good in these pressure situations.

SD has the potential but they would have to have an almost perfect game.

spacecrime 01-19-2008 08:52 AM

Re: if Im the chargers, i do this....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JR4 (Post 751571)
Actually if they can move the chains and slowly make their way down field and in the process eat up a lot of the clock this would be a great thing for them. Why? Because TB is sitting on the Bench If he there the PATs aren't scoring points.

I hear this all the time and never understand it.

Teams take turns with the ball. You cannot keep a team off the field. You only delay its turn (and therefore your next turn). So the Chargers take ten mins. So what. Then they punt or kick off and we get the ball back.

All running the clock does is limit teh NUMBER of possessions EACH team has.

If they have a 14 min drive and kick a FG, and we have a 1 min drive and score a TD, they lost, no matter how much time they took off the clock.

You cannot beat a team with a long drive. You beat a team by scoring a TD on your drives, long or small.

Long drives are useful IF you have a lead, and therefore want to limit the chances the other team has to come from behind. And they are useful to give your D a rest.

But each team has the same number of possessions. It is how you score on your possession that matters, not how long you take on your turn.


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