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mcsully 03-16-2011 06:52 PM

No trading picks for next year..Maybe...
 
Just watching NFLN and it was mentioned technically there is no NFL draft set for next year (until the CBA is signed). Now we all believe its going to be done but Michael Lombardi mentioned this might keep teams away from trading away picks next year..

Could this play a role into BB philosphy? Will he prepare with the rules that are in place now and not trade back for additional picks next year?


Just wanted to throw this out..

ctpatsfan77 03-16-2011 07:16 PM

Re: No trading picks for next year..Maybe...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mcsully (Post 2503472)
Just watching NFLN and it was mentioned technically there is no NFL draft set for next year (until the CBA is signed). Now we all believe its going to be done but Michael Lombardi mentioned this might keep teams away from trading away picks next year..

Could this play a role into BB philosphy? Will he prepare with the rules that are in place now and not trade back for additional picks next year?


Just wanted to throw this out..

Maybe that's why BB's already traded away next year's 6 and 7. ;)

Seriously, though, who knows?

CoachK 03-16-2011 07:25 PM

Re: No trading picks for next year..Maybe...
 
That might not be a bad thing. It might motivate BB to be more agressive in using his currency to go up and get targets, as opposed to moving back and getting additional draft currency.

Wouldn't mind him moving up to get someopen like Quinn early and perhaps one of the stud DEs later.

meggett 03-16-2011 07:55 PM

Re: No trading picks for next year..Maybe...
 
we have a pretty young team. theres not enough roster space for the 47 draft picks we have.....if he is concerned about next year (i wouldnt be) we should be trading up . pretty sure i would crap my pants if we traded 17 and 33 and moved into top 10......AJ Green? Patrick Peterson? Julio Jones?...hey a man can dream right?

convertedpatsfan 03-16-2011 08:03 PM

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I think it will be possible to trade for 2012 picks since many teams already have, including us. If we could make trades with those picks earlier when the CBA was set to expire and no 2012 draft was set, it makes sense that we'd still be able to do so.

There could be a small risk if the draft is reduced in terms of rounds. But I imagine there'd be some type of grandfathering system so everyone knew the new rules.

Patriot Missile 03-16-2011 08:04 PM

Re: No trading picks for next year..Maybe...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mcsully (Post 2503472)
Just watching NFLN and it was mentioned technically there is no NFL draft set for next year (until the CBA is signed). Now we all believe its going to be done but Michael Lombardi mentioned this might keep teams away from trading away picks next year..

Could this play a role into BB philosphy? Will he prepare with the rules that are in place now and not trade back for additional picks next year?


Just wanted to throw this out..

Thanks for the info. I haven't pondered this scenario yet.

patchick 03-16-2011 08:37 PM

Re: No trading picks for next year..Maybe...
 
How about the fact that you can't sign UDFAs? Does that make moving down to pick up an extra 6th or 7th more attractive this year?

the wrothbroughterer 03-16-2011 09:58 PM

Re: No trading picks for next year..Maybe...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CoachK (Post 2503495)
That might not be a bad thing. It might motivate BB to be more agressive in using his currency to go up and get targets, as opposed to moving back and getting additional draft currency.

Wouldn't mind him moving up to get someopen like Quinn early and perhaps one of the stud DEs later.

I think that this is one of the biggest misconceptions about the BB drafting philosophy. Whatever us arm chair scouts may think, when it comes down to brass tax we have no idea what the Patriots draft board actually is. We can guesstimate what it looks like based upon media reports and our own analysis of what the team targets for its positional groupings, but none of us are actually sitting there formulating the basis for their draft philosophy from year to year.

How can you be so sure that the Pats weren't targeting Devin McCourty all along last year and knew that he was going to be their first round pick? If that was indeed the case then why reach for him at 24 when you know he'll be there at 28 and you can simultaneously increase your draft capital, get the player you want, and pay him less money than you would have by drafting him 4 spots higher.

Also, I'm not trying to pick on you, I just felt that your statement illustrated my point.

Lamanai 03-16-2011 10:02 PM

Re: No trading picks for next year..Maybe...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by patchick (Post 2503546)
How about the fact that you can't sign UDFAs? Does that make moving down to pick up an extra 6th or 7th more attractive this year?


I thought about this too, but when you think about it there will be very little difference between a 7th and an UDFA. You cannot speak to either one until the CBA is signed. And after the CBA is signed, UDFA will be divided up amongst the 32 teams in about six miliseconds...

ctpatsfan77 03-16-2011 10:21 PM

Re: No trading picks for next year..Maybe...
 
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Originally Posted by Lamanai (Post 2503599)
I thought about this too, but when you think about it there will be very little difference between a 7th and an UDFA. You cannot speak to either one until the CBA is signed. And after the CBA is signed, UDFA will be divided up amongst the 32 teams in about six miliseconds...

Ask Matt Cassel if there's a difference between being a 7th-round pick and an UDFA.


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