New England Patriots Forums - PatsFans.com  Patriots Fan Messageboard

New England Patriots Forums - PatsFans.com Patriots Fan Messageboard (http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/)
-   Patriots Draft Talk (http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/13/patriots-draft-talk.html)
-   -   The JaMarcus Russell trainwreck (http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/13/740463-jamarcus-russell-trainwreck.html)

FredFromDartmouth 03-04-2011 06:58 PM

The JaMarcus Russell trainwreck
 
So anyone care to opine on how this happened? Most of the draft pundits had him rated very highly but now his house is being foreclosed on. Everyone is now going to say that they saw this coming but I won't believe it unless I see the post.

;);)I should note that he did own a full-length fur coat; usually a bad sign (although Ty Law had one he worked out OK:)). I usually associate full-length fur coats with the type of WR that draftnics love and I (and the Patriots) hate so imagine my surprise when I found out that Jamarcus had such a coat.:p

As I have said before first round QBs and WRs are highly risky. RBs also these days.

Sciz 03-04-2011 07:18 PM

Re: The JaMarcus Russell trainwreck
 
It's a lot harder to change character and commitment level than a lot of coaches/GMs think.

Gunnails 03-04-2011 07:28 PM

Re: The JaMarcus Russell trainwreck
 
Russell and Ghoulston in my mind are some what similar, both have all the talent needed, just no desire to focus and commit after they got payed.

No eye of the tiger, no nasty, no pride.

Gunnails 03-04-2011 07:29 PM

Re: The JaMarcus Russell trainwreck
 
Joe Namath rocked a full length fur coat.

FredFromDartmouth 03-04-2011 08:56 PM

Re: The JaMarcus Russell trainwreck
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gunnails (Post 2495563)
Joe Namath rocked a full length fur coat.

No substance abuse issues there...or public spectacles

jmt57 03-04-2011 10:14 PM

Re: The JaMarcus Russell trainwreck
 
JaMarcus Russell was a guy people rated highly because of the success of his college team, LSU, and Russell's performance against a relatively subpar opponent (Notre Dame) in the Sugar Bowl. On top of that he was 6-5 and did have a strong arm. Comparisons to the next best QB (Brady Quinn) made him look even better. So for average fans (and the Raiders) it made sense to draft him first. For those that scratched the surface his mechanics weren't that great. He had a slow delivery and often threw off his back foot. His decision making was mediocre and he threw into coverage far too often; something he got away with in college but not in the NFL.

As far as the work ethic thing I do recall a couple reports of that being an issue before he was drafted but it's a bit difficult to do an internet search finding those articles now, since so very much has been written about him since. I did find at least one though, so it's not as if there was not anybody questioning Russell's work ethic prior to his being drafted:

JaMarcus Russell wants to be NFL's No. 1 priority - USATODAY.com - 2/25/2007

Quote:

There were questions about his footwork, his experience and his work ethic.
I seem to recall one of the big names (Mayock?) bringing up his work habits but can't swear to it. More than one report of him being last guy to arrive/ first to leave got swept under the rug by most because of his physical abilities and highlight reels.

Russell was in the right place/right time. Raiders picking first and you know how Al Davis loves that vertical passing game; Russell is a guy who can throw the ball sixty yards from one knee. On top of that it was a relatively poor QB class - the other QB's were Brady Quinn, Kevin Kolb, Trent Edwards, John Beck, Drew Stanton, Tyler Thigpen, etc.; they just made Russell look even better. Throw in Quinn having a bad bowl game head to head against Russell having a good game and the divide grows larger. And don't forget Russell had some pretty good receivers in college (Dwayne Bowe, Early Doucet, Brandon LaFell), which helped him out too.

IcyPatriot 03-04-2011 10:53 PM

Re: The JaMarcus Russell trainwreck
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gunnails (Post 2495563)
Joe Namath rocked a full length fur coat.


Sure did and he got lots of side action wearing that uniform.

FredFromDartmouth 03-05-2011 07:16 AM

Re: The JaMarcus Russell trainwreck
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by IcyPatriot (Post 2495672)
Sure did and he got lots of side action wearing that uniform.

Ah but was it mink or fox fur or racoon? Racoon seems not as bad (esp. with a racoon hat); sort of an Ivy league college fan uniform from a bygone era. Mink is bad and fox is really bad.

I seem to remember that he wore racoon or faux fur....wait I checked and saw him in two different furs including what looked like fox on the sidelines:eek:. From Wikipedia: "He originated the fad of wearing a full-length fur coat on the sidelines, a habit which was adopted by many players after him. The NFL [No Fun League] has since outlawed this..."

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images...jpg?1272441474

Joe:
http://www.gothamist.com/images/2003_12_joenamath.jpg

And in faux fur:
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/media/ph...9/49047188.jpg

upstater1 03-05-2011 09:37 AM

Re: The JaMarcus Russell trainwreck
 
Do we know that JaMarcus has money problems?

A lot of rich people with plenty of money are deciding to take the credit hit rather than pay mortgages on houses whose value is underwater.

They're rich, what do they care about bad credit?

West Philly Patriot 03-05-2011 10:02 AM

Re: The JaMarcus Russell trainwreck
 
Let's place the blame exactly where it belongs..... On da purple drank!!


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:45 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2

© Copyright 2000-2012. PatsFans.com Is a Partner of USA TODAY Sports Digital Properties.
The opinions posted in this forum do not necessarily reflect the opinions of our staff at PatsFans.com or USA Today.
We are not affiliated with the New England Patriots™ or the NFL™. The Photo Used In the header was taken by Ian Logue.

This site is owned and operated by I&K Internet Design Enterprises, LLC


1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361 362 363 364 365 366 367 368 369 370 371 372 373 374 375 376 377 378 379 380 381 382 383 384 385 386 387 388 389 390 391 392 393 394 395 396 397 398 399 400 401 402 403 404 405 406 407 408 409 410 411 412 413 414 415 416 417 418 419 420 421 422 423 424 425 426 427 428 429 430 431 432 433 434 435 436 437 438 439 440 441 442 443 444 445 446 447 448 449 450 451 452 453 454 455 456 457 458 459 460 461 462 463 464 465 466 467 468 469 470 471 472 473 474 475 476 477 478 479 480 481 482 483 484 485 486 487 488 489 490 491 492 493 494 495 496 497 498 499 500 501 502 503 504 505 506 507 508 509 510 511 512 513 514 515 516 517 518 519 520 521 522 523 524 525 526 527 528 529 530 531 532 533 534 535 536 537 538 539 540 541 542 543 544 545 546 547 548 549 550 551 552 553 554 555 556 557 558 559 560 561 562 563