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DaedalusX 01-24-2011 12:39 AM

Jets window is now shut
 
Something else to consider is that this was the Jets only opening to make a SB run and for one reason more than just all of their FA re-signings and the emotional letdown of this loss after all their bluster (and the difficulty generating that bluster they will face next year):

They gave the Pats a rival to destroy.

See, before this year, the Jets were just a team we despise and expect to beat twice a year. If we lose one, it sucks. But we expect to win 2/3 times. It's sort of like back with Indy pre-2006. We never built teams to target them or to beat them specifically. So when we lost to Indy in the AFCCG, what happens?

Belichick builds a leviathan designed to score enough points that no one -- and specifically Indy -- could never hope to lead a late-game rally like that to beat us again.

The Jets gave the Patriots a huge target to aim for this off-season, both specifically in a rival and as a defensive scheme to break. I expect to see major moves this off-season meant to put the Jets back into their hole for a long time.

And I think next year, we're going all the way. :rocker:

Sciz 01-24-2011 12:43 AM

Re: Jets window is now shut
 
The Jets have 32 players under contract due a total of almost $99M in salary next season.
The Patriots have 46 under contract for $65.5M.

I don't know exactly how this translates to cap hit, but the Jets are relatively screwed when it comes to resigning guys.

pats63 01-24-2011 12:47 AM

Re: Jets window is now shut
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sciz (Post 2462978)
The Jets have 32 players under contract due a total of almost $99M in salary next season.
The Patriots have 46 under contract for $65.5M.

I don't know exactly how this translates to cap hit, but the Jets are relatively screwed when it comes to resigning guys.

yeah boy jets are screwed.....

Dufflebagz 01-24-2011 12:48 AM

Re: Jets window is now shut
 
David Harris, Santonio Holmes, Braylon Edwards, Antonio Cromartie.....they will be able to keep two at best.

Brad Smith, Shaun Ellis, Brodney Pool, Drew Coleman, Tony Richardson are some other FA's who's returns are questionable.

naF staP 01-24-2011 01:18 AM

Re: Jets window is now shut
 
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danam404 01-24-2011 01:22 AM

Re: Jets window is now shut
 
I love this thread

coolguy 01-24-2011 01:26 AM

Re: Jets window is now shut
 
FREE AGENTS
Shaun Ellis
Steve Weatherford
Brodney Pool
Tony Richardson
Braylon Edwards
Wayne Hunter
Trevor Pryce
David Harris
Robert Turner
Nick Folk
Antonio Cromartie
Lance Laury
Santonio Holmes
Eric Smith
Brad Smith
James Ihedigbo
Drew Coleman
Kellen Clemens
Marquice Cole
Michael Turkovich
Marcus Dixon

The pats should make offers to all of them just drive the price up lol

kidding aside, bill should make a big offer to holmes and see what happens

SoonerPatriot 01-24-2011 01:33 AM

Re: Jets window is now shut
 
Over at GangGreen they are talking like it will be no problem to keep Santurdio and Edwards.

"Tanny is a magician with the cap".

Cro has 8 or 9 mouths to feed. He's out the door to the highest bidder.

One of Edwards and Holmes is gone.

LT is done.

Jenkins is done.

Pryce is done.

Ellis is likely gone.

Brad smith is gone.

Coleman is unlikely to re-sign.

Harris may command some pretty big money. He could be gone, too.

The rub for "Tanny" is they just emptied the vault for Revis and Mangold last summer. Hard to imagine them being able to shoulder the cap for all these guys.

pherein 01-24-2011 01:36 AM

Re: Jets window is now shut
 
I just have to think about it and smile. With all the talk of draft, and putting rookies on the field to make a difference, which rarely works. Sean, GW and BB are going to have a field day this year , with all of the FA's that teams can't pay for.

2011 NFL Free Agents: DL

Ice_Ice_Brady 01-24-2011 01:36 AM

Re: Jets window is now shut
 
The funny thing is the Jets have done virtually nothing in the last five years that could be considered innovative. For whatever reason, Tannenbaum is a supposed genius. Why?

The only thing I'll give them credit for is some savvy drafting. Not to say it was really brilliant drafting because they had some pretty high picks to work with. They got Ferguson, Mangold, Revis, and Harris in the first round. I'd call Revis and Mangold great picks for where they were drafted. I don't see a lot of good late-round picks at all for the Jets, and I see a quarterback who has played well in big games but still has a QB rating of around 70. Point being that their drafting has resulted in some good players, but those players command high first round salaries and should be good.

Onto free agency. The Jets have not signed a single player for salary/compensation that can be considered a bargain. To recap some of their moves last year. Jason Taylor and Ladainian Tomlinson, paid way above the highest bidders. Santonio Holmes, traded for a fifth-rounder because no one wanted the headache; once again the Jets were the highest bidder; ditto on Braylon Edwards. Bart Scott, again the Jets were willing to pony up the cash. Antonio Cromartie, the Jets were far and away the highest bidder, again giving away a second-round pick.

Even in re-signing their own talent, the Jets didn't exactly get bargains with Mangold or (definitely not) Revis.

What's the point? Good teams typically draft very well, regardless of their draft position, develop players, and get great bargains on the free agent market. That's how you beat the cap. Don't mistake aggressive bidding and a win-now mentality for a solid long-term plan.

Look at all the guys the Patriots have who cost them virtually nothing and aren't giving them a huge cap hit. The Jets have very few of these guys. Logic tells me this will all catch up with them very soon.


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