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Caspir 01-03-2008 09:39 AM

OT: Colts and Titans Had "Agreement"
 
Kerry Collins, speaking on WFAN, said that the Titans kneeled down at the end of the Colts-Titans game because they knew the Colts wouldn't call a timeout.

Collins said that the Titans originally called a running play, but he was told over his headset that the Colts wouldn't call a timeout to potentially force Tennessee to punt with less than 20 seconds left. Pressed further, Collins said the Colts and Titans coaches had "an agreement," which is sure to raise collusion questions. Clearly it would have been a long shot for the Colts to win, but Browns fans won't enjoy hearing this one. Jan. 3 - 8:42 am et

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Uhh, yea. That's the definition of collusion, and it involves a team that was playing for a playoff spot. I wonder what the NFL will do about this blatant rules violation?

sieglo 01-03-2008 09:41 AM

Re: OT: Colts and Titans Had "Agreement"
 
I'm with the Colts on this one. Who cares, really? The Colts are under no obligation to try to win the game.

DefenseRules 01-03-2008 09:42 AM

Re: OT: Colts and Titans Had "Agreement"
 
They will do NOTHING. This is Polian we are talking about. St. Dungy would never agree to such a thing. :rolleyes:

Tunescribe 01-03-2008 09:43 AM

Re: OT: Colts and Titans Had "Agreement"
 
In the immortal words of Martin Luther Dungy: "It was a dark day for the NFL."

ctpatsfan77 01-03-2008 09:45 AM

Re: OT: Colts and Titans Had "Agreement"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sieglo (Post 716492)
I'm with the Colts on this one. Who cares, really? The Colts are under no obligation to try to win the game.

Actually, according to Leasterbrook**:
Quote:

The NFL has a rule saying teams must make a "bona-fide effort" to win, even if the game has no impact on the standings.
**Yes, I feel dirty. :bricks:

BradyManny 01-03-2008 09:48 AM

Re: OT: Colts and Titans Had "Agreement"
 
How is that not a huge deal? It's basically admitting Dungy helped rig a game that decided the playoff spots. It is collusion, and it's pretty pathetic.

The Colts can try and lose the game if they want, that's fine, but any discussion between the two teams conspiring to create a desired outcome - that's pretty much the worst thing that can happen in sports. It's definitely something that can tarnish reputations.

spacecrime 01-03-2008 09:48 AM

Re: OT: Colts and Titans Had "Agreement"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sieglo (Post 716492)
I'm with the Colts on this one. Who cares, really? The Colts are under no obligation to try to win the game.

No, but that isn't the question, now, is it?

It is telling the other team that you will not try to win the game so they will not run a play.

sieglo 01-03-2008 09:49 AM

Re: OT: Colts and Titans Had "Agreement"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ctpatsfan77 (Post 716507)
Actually, according to Leasterbrook**:


**Yes, I feel dirty. :bricks:

I guess playing a touch game for 59 minutes doesn't equal a bona fide effort?

By any legal interpretation, it does.

Caspir 01-03-2008 09:49 AM

Re: OT: Colts and Titans Had "Agreement"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sieglo (Post 716492)
I'm with the Colts on this one. Who cares, really? The Colts are under no obligation to try to win the game.

I don't think they're under any obligation to throw Hail Mary passes to Reggie Wayne, or bring Manning back in to go for the win either. However, they are under an obligation not to collude with another organization to affect the outcome of a game in progress, which is exactly what they did. It's sort of like, I don't know, having a camera positioned in the wrong area of the field. Choosing not to throw bombs for the win is not against the rules. Informing the other team that you will let them win is against the rules.

BradyManny 01-03-2008 09:50 AM

Re: OT: Colts and Titans Had "Agreement"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sieglo (Post 716516)
I guess playing a touch game for 59 minutes doesn't equal a bona fide effort?

By any legal interpretation, it does.

But if the two teams actually had an agreement or any discussion whatsoever - how is that not illegal? I agree, the Colts can lose the game if they damn well please, they just can't tell the Titans in advance.


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