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Pats_2007 12-27-2007 11:23 PM

Rate the Patriots Offensive Starters From Top to Bottom
 
Rate all the 22 starters.

Offense:
QB - T. Brady ?/10
RB - L. Maroney ?/10
T - M. Light ?/10
T - N. Kaczur ?/10
G - S. Neal ?/10
G - L. Mankins ?/10
C - D. Koppen ?/10
WR - R . Moss ?/10
WR - W. Welker ?/10
WR - D. Stallworth ?/10
TE - B. Watson ?/10

Defense:
DE - R. Seymour ?/10
NT - V. Wilfork ?/10
DE - T. Warren ?/10
OLB - M. Vrabel ?/10
MLB - T. Bruschi ?/10
MLB - J. Seau ?/10
OLB - A. Thomas ?/10
CB - A. Samuel ?/10
CB - E. Hobbs ?/10
SS - R. Harrison ?/10
FS - J. Sanders ?/10

Special Teams:
K - S. Gostkowski ?/10
P - C. Hanson ?/10

Rate all the starters from a scale of 1-10

zoostation 12-28-2007 06:14 AM

Re: Rate the Patriots Offensive Starters From Top to Bottom
 
Offense:
QB - T. Brady 10
RB - L. Maroney 6
T - M. Light 8
T - N. Kaczur 7
G - S. Neal 7
G - L. Mankins 9
C - D. Koppen 8
WR - R . Moss 10
WR - W. Welker 9
WR - D. Stallworth 7
TE - B. Watson 6

strongside 12-28-2007 07:24 AM

Re: Rate the Patriots Offensive Starters From Top to Bottom
 
Offense:
QB - T. Brady 10/10
RB - L. Maroney 6/10
T - M. Light 9/10
T - N. Kaczur 7/10
G - S. Neal 8/10
G - L. Mankins 9/10
C - D. Koppen 9/10
WR - R . Moss 10/10
WR - W. Welker 9/10
WR - D. Stallworth 6/10
TE - B. Watson 7/10

Defense:
DE - R. Seymour 8/10
NT - V. Wilfork 10/10
DE - T. Warren 8/10
OLB - M. Vrabel 9/10
MLB - T. Bruschi 7/10
MLB - J. Seau 7/10
OLB - A. Thomas 8/10
CB - A. Samuel 10/10
CB - E. Hobbs 7/10
SS - R. Harrison 8/10
FS - J. Sanders 7/10

Special Teams:
K - S. Gostkowski 6/10
P - C. Hanson 7/10

Truck 12-28-2007 07:32 AM

Re: Rate the Patriots Offensive Starters From Top to Bottom
 
Whats the baseline? Is 5 an average starter at the position?

Offense:
QB - T. Brady 10/10
RB - L. Maroney 5/10
T - M. Light 8/10
T - N. Kaczur 6/10
G - S. Neal 7/10
G - L. Mankins 9/10
C - D. Koppen 7/10
WR - R . Moss 10/10
WR - W. Welker 9/10
WR - D. Stallworth 7/10
TE - B. Watson 8/10

Defense:
DE - R. Seymour 8/10
NT - V. Wilfork 10/10
DE - T. Warren 9/10
OLB - M. Vrabel 9/10
MLB - T. Bruschi 7/10
MLB - J. Seau 6/10
OLB - A. Thomas 8/10
CB - A. Samuel 10/10
CB - E. Hobbs 6/10
SS - R. Harrison 8/10
FS - J. Sanders 6/10

Special Teams:
K - S. Gostkowski 4/10
P - C. Hanson 4/10

hambone1818 12-28-2007 08:46 AM

Re: Rate the Patriots Offensive Starters From Top to Bottom
 
If you're rating each player at their position based upon 5 being an AVERAGE NFL player at that position, here's how I'd rate them:

Offense:
QB - T. Brady 10/10
RB - L. Maroney 6/10
T - M. Light 7/10
T - N. Kaczur 6/10
G - S. Neal 6/10
G - L. Mankins 9/10
C - D. Koppen 7/10
WR - R . Moss 10/10
WR - W. Welker 8/10
WR - D. Stallworth 6/10
TE - B. Watson 7/10

Defense:
DE - R. Seymour 7/10
NT - V. Wilfork 10/10
DE - T. Warren 9/10
OLB - M. Vrabel 9/10
MLB - T. Bruschi 6/10
MLB - J. Seau 5/10
OLB - A. Thomas 7/10
CB - A. Samuel 10/10
CB - E. Hobbs 5/10
SS - R. Harrison 7/10
FS - J. Sanders 6/10

Special Teams:
K - S. Gostkowski 5/10
P - C. Hanson 5/10

Keegs 12-28-2007 08:48 AM

Re: Rate the Patriots Offensive Starters From Top to Bottom
 
i give everyone a 7 1/2.

thank you.

everlong 12-28-2007 08:55 AM

Re: Rate the Patriots Offensive Starters From Top to Bottom
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Truck (Post 704792)
Whats the baseline? Is 5 an average starter at the position?

Using that baseline and this years performance only.

10 Elite
9 Pro Bowl
8 Borderline Pro Bowl
7 Well above average
6 Slightly above average
5 average
4 Slightly Below average
3 Jets Starter
2 Dolphins Starter
1 Couldn't start for the Dolphins


Offense:
QB - T. Brady 10/10
RB - L. Maroney 6/10
T - M. Light 8/10
T - N. Kaczur 5/10
G - S. Neal 6/10
G - L. Mankins 9/10
C - D. Koppen 9/10
WR - R . Moss 10/10
WR - W. Welker 10/10
WR - D. Stallworth 6/10
TE - B. Watson 6/10

Defense:
DE - R. Seymour 6/10
NT - V. Wilfork 10/10
DE - T. Warren 7/10
OLB - M. Vrabel 9/10
MLB - T. Bruschi 5/10
MLB - J. Seau 6/10
OLB - A. Thomas 7/10
CB - A. Samuel 9/10
CB - E. Hobbs 6/10
SS - R. Harrison 7/10
FS - J. Sanders 7/10

Special Teams:
K - S. Gostkowski 8/10
P - C. Hanson 4/10

Oswlek 12-28-2007 09:00 AM

Re: Rate the Patriots Offensive Starters From Top to Bottom
 
What is it with the Gostkowski ratings? The guy is in the top three for KO distance and, while he is tied for 12th in FG%, much of that is due to his low number of attempts. (eg. on missed kick is the difference between 12th and 4th since he has attempted the second least FGs in the league amongst full-time kickers). I thought he proved himself in last year's playoff when he made every attempt including a 50+ yarder and one with a minute left in a 3 point win over SD and a late one to take a 3 point lead against Indy.

There is no way he should be considered any less than 7/10, but I think it is closer to 8/10. And ranking Hanson and Gost equally? :eek:

everlong 12-28-2007 09:13 AM

Re: Rate the Patriots Offensive Starters From Top to Bottom
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Oswlek (Post 704926)
What is it with the Gostkowski ratings?

I did a copy and paste from another post and forgot to edit the kickers. SG is a 7 or 8.

Two Eight 12-28-2007 09:17 AM

Re: Rate the Patriots Offensive Starters From Top to Bottom
 
Offense:
QB - T. Brady 10/10
RB - L. Maroney 7/10
T - M. Light 7/10
T - N. Kaczur 6/10
G - S. Neal 8/10
G - L. Mankins 9/10
C - D. Koppen 9/10
WR - R . Moss 10/10
WR - W. Welker 10/10
WR - D. Stallworth 7/10 (Gaffney 8/10)
TE - B. Watson 7/10

Defense:
DE - R. Seymour 8/10
NT - V. Wilfork 10/10
DE - T. Warren 8/10
OLB - M. Vrabel 10/10
MLB - T. Bruschi 7/10
MLB - J. Seau 7/10
OLB - A. Thomas 7/10
CB - A. Samuel 9/10
CB - E. Hobbs 7/10
SS - R. Harrison 10/10
FS - J. Sanders 8/10

Special Teams:
K - S. Gostkowski 8/10
P - C. Hanson 8/10


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