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Keegs 12-17-2007 07:37 AM

When will the Jets Investigation start?
 
If the Patriots were illegally videotaping a team, and lied and said that they had permission, there would be an immediate investigation.

The NFL is ignoring the Jets breaking the rules. That's how simple this is. They are showing a bias and treating teams differently. Certain rules apply to certain teams and the same rules don't apply to others.

If they don't investigate, I would hope that we would start videotaping every game again and just lie and say that we had permission.

That should put an end to that real quick.

Keegs 12-17-2007 09:41 AM

Re: When will the Jets Investigation start?
 
bump....

and i'm starting to think that BB should seriously start taping other teams and lying about having permission.

The nfl would have to allow this, since they allowed the jets to do the same thing...

So either they would allow the pats to do it, or they would punish the jets (and pats again).

plus it would be funny.

Boston Boxer 12-17-2007 10:15 AM

Re: When will the Jets Investigation start?
 
the NFL has already swept this under the rug and said that no rules were broken.

Keegs 12-17-2007 10:24 AM

Re: When will the Jets Investigation start?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Boston Boxer (Post 689466)
the NFL has already swept this under the rug and said that no rules were broken.

well they are ignoring it b/c they choose to.. but rules have been broken.

they LIED about having permission to tape.

Now the pats should lie, every game, saying every team gave them permission, and tape everything.

According to the precedent that the nfl set, that is acceptable behavior.

Mike in 333 12-17-2007 10:30 AM

Re: When will the Jets Investigation start?
 
It's over, let it die.

Keegs 12-17-2007 11:47 AM

Re: When will the Jets Investigation start?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike in 333 (Post 689505)
It's over, let it die.

it has just begun.

JoeSixPat 12-17-2007 11:52 AM

Re: When will the Jets Investigation start?
 
Never thought I'd say this but I'm with Keegs on this one.

We have the NFL saying that if permission was given, no rules were broken.

We have the Patriots clearly stating that no permission was given.

The only thing for the NFL to do is investigate, request the tape, review the tape and at the very least fine the Jets for filming without permission.

Otherwise they set the very clear precedent that a team can film without permission, as long as they claim to have received permission. And even if the other team states otherwise, the NFL will not investigate or fine a team for filming without permission.

Keegs 12-17-2007 12:16 PM

Re: When will the Jets Investigation start?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeSixPat (Post 689673)
Never thought I'd say this but I'm with Keegs on this one.

We have the NFL saying that if permission was given, no rules were broken.

We have the Patriots clearly stating that no permission was given.

The only thing for the NFL to do is investigate, request the tape, review the tape and at the very least fine the Jets for filming without permission.

Otherwise they set the very clear precedent that a team can film without permission, as long as they claim to have received permission. And even if the other team states otherwise, the NFL will not investigate or fine a team for filming without permission.

i'm glad you agree.

it is exactly what you say.

what a load of horsecrap.

Michael 12-17-2007 05:00 PM

Re: When will the Jets Investigation start?
 
I think there should be an * next to their champio.....never mind.

Metaphors 12-17-2007 05:31 PM

Re: When will the Jets Investigation start?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Keegs (Post 689715)
i'm glad you agree.

it is exactly what you say.

what a load of horsecrap.

It is, but this incident has cleared up what has confused us all about the original filming issue. It was never about filming or location or operating procedures or any other such nonsense. It was about intent. The NFL came down hard (after a warning) because they believed that Belichick's intent was to cheat. If the captured tape showed the defense on the field, cheerleaders or colorful birdies in the sky, the punishment would have been a slap on the wrist.

The Jets and their cameraman with the "hall pass" was not investigated because the intent to cheat was not there. Even though it violated the letter of the rule in the same way the Pats did, the NFL isn't punishing a black-n-white rules violation.

I'm not making excuses, just calling it like it is. You can break whatever rule you like and even get caught...but don't give the impression that you were trying to gain a competitive advantage. This doesn't lead to enhanced credibility, but it does allow the league to pick-n-choose how they interpret these situations (did you see the Jets story on nfl.com? didn't think so).

Having said this, don't ask me to explain why the Dolphins getting back-alley purchased tapes and using them to steal signals is "just football". That explanation doesn't live in the land of logic and reason.


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