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SVN 12-02-2010 10:27 AM

Rodney: Jets' 9-2 record not ‘lucky
 
NBC'sHarrison: Jets' 9-2 record not ‘lucky’ - NYPOST.com

i must say there are some similarities how we won games in 2003 like the game in miami in overtime.the opening day loss @buffalo etc...

GrogansHeros 12-02-2010 10:37 AM

Re: Rodney: Jets' 9-2 record not ‘lucky
 
It may not be lucky but it isnt as impressive as the PATS 9-2 record...

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PatsBoy12 12-02-2010 11:20 AM

Re: Rodney: Jets' 9-2 record not ‘lucky
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SVN (Post 2368814)
NBC'sHarrison: Jets' 9-2 record not ‘lucky’ - NYPOST.com

i must say there are some similarities how we won games in 2003 like the game in miami in overtime.the opening day loss @buffalo etc...

You're right. The only difference here is that when the Patriots were doing it, they were resilient and always found a way to win. When it's a team we all not only hate but LOVE to hate, then it's just lucky and they're playing weaker competition. That's the nature of the fan.:cool:

JSn 12-02-2010 11:23 AM

Re: Rodney: Jets' 9-2 record not ‘lucky
 
This is also Rodney coaching from the outside...

robertweathers 12-02-2010 11:31 AM

Re: Rodney: Jets' 9-2 record not ‘lucky
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PatsBoy12 (Post 2368883)
You're right. The only difference here is that when the Patriots were doing it, they were resilient and always found a way to win. When it's a team we all not only hate but LOVE to hate, then it's just lucky and they're playing weaker competition. That's the nature of the fan.:cool:

Huge difference IMO. Check out the schedule.

2003 New England Patriots Statistics & Players - Pro-Football-Reference.com

By memory my account

Buff-awful
Philly-dominated
Jets - was tight, but Pats pulled away
Skins- awful
Titans - was tight, but Pats pulled away
Giants- was tight, but Pats pulled away
Fins- Tight game all the way.
Browns- Ugly, but Pats lead most of the game
Broncos- Nice comeback.
Cowboys- Pats dominated
Texans- Ugly game. Pats kinda lucky to win.
Colts- Epic. Big blown lead but its the Colts.
Fins- Tight but Pats pulled away
Jags- Pats owned that game.
Jets - Pats owned that game
Bills- Domination

Notice a trend? Except the Colts game they didn't have any crazy blown leads. There were some games that could have gone either way, but thats the NFL.

2003 Pats were 10-0 vs playoff teams. Jets right now are 1-2 vs likely playoff teams.

There is no comparison IMO.

Dufflebagz 12-02-2010 11:34 AM

Re: Rodney: Jets' 9-2 record not ‘lucky
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by robertweathers (Post 2368895)
Huge difference IMO. Check out the schedule.

2003 New England Patriots Statistics & Players - Pro-Football-Reference.com

By memory my account

Buff-awful
Philly-dominated
Jets - was tight, but Pats pulled away
Skins- awful
Titans - was tight, but Pats pulled away
Giants- was tight, but Pats pulled away
Fins- Tight game all the way.
Browns- Ugly, but Pats lead most of the game
Broncos- Nice comeback.
Cowboys- Pats dominated
Texans- Ugly game. Pats kinda lucky to win.
Colts- Epic. Big blown lead but its the Colts.
Fins- Tight but Pats pulled away
Jags- Pats owned that game.
Jets - Pats owned that game
Bills- Domination

Notice a trend? Except the Colts game they didn't have any crazy blown leads. There were some games that could have gone either way, but thats the NFL.

2003 Pats were 10-0 vs playoff teams. Jets right now are 1-2 vs likely playoff teams.

There is no comparison IMO.

Idk why but I always think about that Texans game and remember the relief after we barely won.

robertweathers 12-02-2010 11:42 AM

Re: Rodney: Jets' 9-2 record not ‘lucky
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dufflebagz (Post 2368901)
Idk why but I always think about that Texans game and remember the relief after we barely won.

No question.

Mia too as Sey blocked a kick and Mare missed another one in OT or it could be the other way around. I'd need to pop in the highlight DVD for nostalgia's sake :D

What was so unique about that season was that in most of the games that they won by 10, 7, 3, 12, etc, the winning margins were so narrow, it always seemed like the leads were safe. So strange.

Even the playoff games. TN was a nail biter, but did anyone actually expect Drew Bennett to catch that ball or the Colts to comback all the way once the score got to 21-14?

The Super Bowl was a different animal. Carolina played so over their heads it wasn't funny.

JFaulkNYJ 12-02-2010 12:47 PM

Re: Rodney: Jets' 9-2 record not ‘lucky
 
lucky, or not it doesnt matter.

last year the jets were lucky, but played very well in the playoffs.

my point is all you need to do is gather wins, and try to play the best football you can late.

Rob0729 12-02-2010 01:14 PM

Re: Rodney: Jets' 9-2 record not ‘lucky
 
I would say they are more fortunate than lucky. They have had their breaks, but they didn't exactly luck into wins.

I think Rodney is being too kind in comparing this Jets' team to the 2003 Pats. The 2003 Patriots had easily the best defense of the Patriots' history and one of the more underrated defenses in league history. Other than the two games the Pats' lost along with maybe the Texans' and Titans' games, the defense pretty much kept the Pats in every game from the opening kick off until the final whistle. The offense struggled a lot during the year, but the defense always kept the Pats with a lead or pretty close to winning.

The Jets are not playing complete football in any phase of the game. They can be dominant at times in all three phases, but struggle in all three phases too at times.

Also, as pointed out, the Pats faced 10 playoff teams in 2003 and beat them all. The Jets have only beaten one of the likely playoff teams they have faced.

WhiZa 12-02-2010 01:26 PM

Re: Rodney: Jets' 9-2 record not ‘lucky
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob0729 (Post 2369019)
I would say they are more fortunate than lucky. They have had their breaks, but they didn't exactly luck into wins.

breaks, fortunate, lucky... whatever it is they have a lot of it


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