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PonyExpress 12-02-2007 11:12 PM

Bradshaw knocks NFL: "not a good product"
 
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I've never seen a more messed-up season. Football in the NFL is as bad as I've ever seen it in my life. If it weren't for the Dallas Cowboys, the New England Patriots, the Indianapolis Colts and the Green Bay Packers, I would not turn the television on.

This is the most boring football season. Thank goodness New England is going for an undefeated season. But golly, I have never seen anything so bad. You say you can't put your finger on it, well I can: There isn't a lot of talent out there. There are a lot of average teams out there. The NFL is very subpar right now. I mean, coast to coast, there is nothing stimulating out there.

I have never seen so many bad decisions made by quarterbacks. I've never seen so many average wide receivers when normally you should always be able to find receivers and develop them. I don't understand that. I really don't.

We are football fans and we try to watch the game, but it's not a good product right now.
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7519516

I appreciate Bradshaw's honesty. I have to agree with him. There is some awful football out there. The college game has been much better this year, other than the Pats.

PatsSteve1 12-02-2007 11:20 PM

Re: Bradshaw knocks NFL: "not a good product"
 
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Originally Posted by PonyExpress (Post 658729)
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7519516

"This is the most boring football season. Thank goodness New England is going for an undefeated season. But golly, I have never seen anything so bad. You say you can't put your finger on it, well I can: There isn't a lot of talent out there. There are a lot of average teams out there. The NFL is very subpar right now. I mean, coast to coast, there is nothing stimulating out there."

I appreciate Bradshaw's honesty. I have to agree with him. There is some awful football out there. The college game has been much better this year, other than the Pats.

I have always felt the NFL, and all pro league's for that matter, have over expanded and there are too many teams. One thing a team needs to be good is a good QB for instance. How many of those are around? I don't think there's enough talent for 32 teams. In any league.

Pats Fan in Indy 12-02-2007 11:24 PM

Re: Bradshaw knocks NFL: "not a good product"
 
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Originally Posted by PatsSteve1 (Post 658737)
I have always felt the NFL, and all pro league's for that matter, have over expanded and there are too many teams. One thing a team needs to be good is a good QB for instance. How many of those are around? I don't think there's enough talent for 32 teams. In any league.

If that's true, then there has never been enough talent considering the fact that this country's population increases in size more than the NFL does, meaning that the pool of talent that the NFL has to choose from increases with every passing year.

Disco Volante 12-02-2007 11:26 PM

Re: Bradshaw knocks NFL: "not a good product"
 
Only one team I care about, I'm all set.

PatsSteve1 12-02-2007 11:28 PM

Re: Bradshaw knocks NFL: "not a good product"
 
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Originally Posted by Pats Fan in Indy (Post 658740)
If that's true, then there has never been enough talent considering the fact that this country's population increases in size more than the NFL does, meaning that the pool of talent that the NFL has to choose from increases with every passing year.

That doesn't mean the extra people make good football players. And it doesn't mean when there were fewer people there weren't more good football players. I'd like to see the NFL get rid of 4 teams in each conference.

AzPatsFan 12-02-2007 11:28 PM

Re: Bradshaw knocks NFL: "not a good product"
 
Its a result of the pass interference and chucking rules making it difficult for Defense and Defense oriented teams to compete.

To win today you have to have an elite Pass oriented Offense with a Probowl QB throwing to a a quintet of very good recievers. Only New England, Indianapolis, Green Bay and Dallas fit that description.

It is a tribute to Bill Belichick,that when he understood what the new rules were forcing, he went out and rebuilt his team to fit the winning formula once again. He could have railed against the perversion of football and losegames. The rules as, engineered by Bill Polian, are turning the NFL into the AFL of the high scoring 1960-1963 seasons.

The NFL seems to be offering an outdoor version of Arena League football. I think it is imperative that the NFL take measures to rebalancethe passing game. I suggest two kinds of PI analogous to flagrant and incidental face masking. I would also like the chuck area expanded to 8-10 yards, or a tightening of the defintion of illegal chuckingtoeliminate someofthe chintzy calls.

PatsSteve1 12-02-2007 11:34 PM

Re: Bradshaw knocks NFL: "not a good product"
 
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Originally Posted by AzPatsFan (Post 658748)
It is a tribute to Bill Belichick,that when he understood what the new rules were forcing, he went out and rebuilt his team to fit the winning formula once again. He could have railed against the perversion of football engineered by Bill Polian, turning it into the AFL of the high scoring 1960-1963 seasons. The NFL seems to be offering an outdoor version of Arena League football. it is imperative that the NFL take measures to rebalancethe passing game. I suggest two kinds of PI analogous to flagrant and incidental face masking. I would also like the chuck area expanded to 8-10 yards,or a tightening of the defintion of illegal chucking..

Oh I definetely agree that they've gone too far helping the O. This year they are also calling holding on the OL less. That isn't to help the D either. The only way I'm for changing rules with regards to PI is if the make it easier for refs to call. Giving them more to have to decide will, IMO, make for more bad calls.

FirstAndGoal 12-02-2007 11:42 PM

Re: Bradshaw knocks NFL: "not a good product"
 
I've been saying this for years. There isn't enough talent and with the cap, there isn't the ability to keep more players on the roster to develop talent. You either have it out of college or you're gone. That makes it more difficult for players who have talent but lacked coaching.

Since the cap isn't going away, I'd like to see the NFL drop back to 28 teams.

sieglo 12-02-2007 11:43 PM

Re: Bradshaw knocks NFL: "not a good product"
 
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Originally Posted by AzPatsFan (Post 658748)
Its a result of the pass interference and chucking rules making it difficult for Defense and Defense oriented teams to compete.

To win today you have to have an elite Pass oriented Offense with a Probowl QB throwing to a a quintet of very good recievers. Only New England, Indianapolis, Green Bay and Dallas fit that description.

It is a tribute to Bill Belichick,that when he understood what the new rules were forcing, he went out and rebuilt his team to fit the winning formula once again. He could have railed against the perversion of football and losegames. The rules as, engineered by Bill Polian, are turning the NFL into the AFL of the high scoring 1960-1963 seasons.

The NFL seems to be offering an outdoor version of Arena League football. I think it is imperative that the NFL take measures to rebalancethe passing game. I suggest two kinds of PI analogous to flagrant and incidental face masking. I would also like the chuck area expanded to 8-10 yards, or a tightening of the defintion of illegal chuckingtoeliminate someofthe chintzy calls.

Insightful post.

Ishdul 12-02-2007 11:57 PM

Re: Bradshaw knocks NFL: "not a good product"
 
I think people are making way too much of this. Do people really think that there are less good QB's now than there were last year? Or the year before? Or 5 years ago? That the level of talent has actually dropped?

I mean, would you ever say that the players who have retired and the regressions of the player were greater than the players who have entered the league and the improvements made by players? That's obviously a very hard question to answer, but it seems like a really odd statement to make. There's certainly a lot of turnover, but it works both ways with guys like Adrian Peterson and Joe Thomas entering the league and looking dominant...


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