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PATRIOT64 11-25-2007 11:28 PM

John Madden Analysis spoken 10x-"The Patriots secondary are vulnerable in the middle"
 
John must have made that statement 10 times at least tonight that the Patriots secondary is very vulnerable down the middle and even a mediocre passer with time can beat them for big plays on that part of the field.

He says the Pats cover the sidelines well in pass protection but can be beat by a good slot receiver or any receiver heading up into the middle of the field.

Amazing no team was able to beat this weakness almost all season except for Philly and Indy - Dallas Clark was not a factor in the indy game and he was sliding towards the middle all game with no success so I think Madden is over exaggerating the weakness as he calls it

We were just too soft in that area tonight but after all,this is a team,not a machine and the Patriots can have games like this where they wish they could have changed the defensive calls back a bit,but IMO its not a worry nor is there any blueprint for catching the Patriots and beating them.

Remember for every inch of an advantage BB and staff give you,BB takes a yard.

IcyPatriot 11-25-2007 11:34 PM

Re: John Madden Analysis spoken 10x-"The Patriots secondary are vulnerable in the mid
 
This was supposedly why we got AD ... and to pass rush him also. He has neither covered the middle or rushed the passer. Rodney has been covering the middle all year ... not sure where he was today.

It would not surprise me to see Belichick finally get a LB/safety type of player that I have been saying we need for 2 years now. Every team is vunerable up the middle ... but we are vunerable in the 10-15 yard range which makes it tougher.

sieglo 11-25-2007 11:34 PM

Re: John Madden Analysis spoken 10x-"The Patriots secondary are vulnerable in the mid
 
CBs were playing outside technique the whole game instead of mixing it up and making Feeley work on his reads. You have to wonder WTF the Ppats coaching staff was thinking.

upstater1 11-25-2007 11:38 PM

Re: John Madden Analysis spoken 10x-"The Patriots secondary are vulnerable in the mid
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by F.B.N. (Post 647045)
This was supposedly why we got AD ... and to pass rush him also. He has neither covered the middle or rushed the passer. Rodney has been covering the middle all year ... not sure where he was today.

It would not surprise me to see Belichick finally get a LB/safety type of player that I have been saying we need for 2 years now. Every team is vunerable up the middle ... but we are vunerable in the 10-15 yard range which makes it tougher.

Adalius had a great game today. He was shadowing Westbrook. If you notice, Westbrook had a very quiet game.

PATRIOT64 11-25-2007 11:38 PM

Re: John Madden Analysis spoken 10x-"The Patriots secondary are vulnerable in the mid
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by F.B.N. (Post 647045)
This was supposedly why we got AD ... and to pass rush him also. He has neither covered the middle or rushed the passer. Rodney has been covering the middle all year ... not sure where he was today.

It would not surprise me to see Belichick finally get a LB/safety type of player that I have been saying we need for 2 years now. Every team is vunerable up the middle ... but we are vunerable in the 10-15 yard range which makes it tougher.

I think most teams are vulnerable up the middle but teams like Indy and Green Bay have done a great job protecting the middle this year

We do need the linebackers to back up off the ball when a pass is expected instead of the constant blitzing packages,Its going to kill the team some upcoming game.

DefenseRules 11-25-2007 11:40 PM

Re: John Madden Analysis spoken 10x-"The Patriots secondary are vulnerable in the mid
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sieglo (Post 647047)
CBs were playing outside technique the whole game instead of mixing it up and making Feeley work on his reads. You have to wonder WTF the Ppats coaching staff was thinking.

EXCELLENT POST. This game had the feel of a BAD GAME PLAN to me. Now I still believe that Philly played well. Give them their due. They outplayed us for most of the game. But I also believe that our Game plan was flawed.

oldskool138 11-25-2007 11:41 PM

Re: John Madden Analysis spoken 10x-"The Patriots secondary are vulnerable in the mid
 
Well, John Madden says dogs can't look up.

(It's a movie reference...If you don't get it, tough :D )

PATRIOT64 11-25-2007 11:41 PM

Re: John Madden Analysis spoken 10x-"The Patriots secondary are vulnerable in the mid
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DefenseRules (Post 647082)
EXCELLENT POST. This game had the feel of a BAD GAME PLAN to me. Now I still believe that Philly played well. Give them their due. They outplayed us for most of the game. But I also believe that our Game plan was flawed.

Ill still stick with Dean Pees over Romeo Crennel anyday of the week

SVN 11-25-2007 11:42 PM

Re: John Madden Analysis spoken 10x-"The Patriots secondary are vulnerable in the mid
 
didnt we all think that BB will shutdown westbrook and make aj feely beat us ? Well he did that and almost didn't work. John madden doesnt need to BB what is the weakness of his own D. Its all about matchups .If everyteam copied the pats offense or the colts offense they would score a bunch of points too.
IMO today the eagles o line was their MVP and our pass rush wasnt good. BB and pees didnt have their best day but it happens.

RayClay 11-25-2007 11:43 PM

Re: John Madden Analysis spoken 10x-"The Patriots secondary are vulnerable in the mid
 
Our linebackers are slow, even for big linebackers. Adalius is fast for a 270 lb. man.


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