There is actually a way to beat the Pats but I don't think any coach has thought of
 

this.

Since the Pats don't have a problem going for it on 4th and 1 up 35-7, how come a coach playing against the pats can't go for it on 4th and 5 when the score is 7-0 pats? You see that Bill is going to do whatever it takes to win so why can't another NFL coach just tell his punter for that ONE GAME, take the day off because we are not going to use you today. We are going to go for it on 4th down all day long and even if it doesn't work atleast we know we came in here and made an effort to beat these guys.


That's the only way a team like the Eagles or Jets can beat the Pats since they are not as good.

Re: There is actually a way to beat the Pats but I don't think any coach has thought
 

I think this is something that TMQ (gasp) acutally gets right. Continuously going for it on fourth and short, statistically, will increase your scoring over a game. Just like every Sunday, there are teams that punt when down by 2 scores in the fourth quarter.

Re: There is actually a way to beat the Pats but I don't think any coach has thought
 

I can't tell if you are trying to be ridiculous or not. If you are, you need to fine tune your humor. If not, you need to watch some football. :D

BB punted against Buffalo, you know, at the end of the game.

Facing fourth and twenty on your own ten yard is not the time to go for it UNLESS there are under two minutes to play and you are down.

It is all situationally based. Making you punter inactive will hamstring your team as well as motivate the other teams defense as they will take it as a challenge.

I have thought more than once that if BB really wanted to disrespect a team, he could make Hanson inactive. But it better be a team he is SURE of beating, and even then, he has Welker who punts very well.

Depending on score and field position. Fourth and one inside your own ten yard line in the first quarter is hardly conducive to winning a game.

This always boggles my mind. It happens ALL the time. What are coaches thinking? It is related to the family of plays where it's third down and seven and the QB throws to a receiver who is running a six yard route with a defender running alongside, waiting to tackle him short of the first down. Or when you have no time outs, under two minutes to play, down two, and you throw a dump off pass to welll covered RB behind the LOS. No gain, loss of 20 seconds on the game clock. Stupid.

Re: There is actually a way to beat the Pats but I don't think any coach has thought
 

Because our defense is GOOD and we will stop more 4th downs than we give up. If teams start going for 4th downs in their own territory, than the scores will starting looking like 49-0 and 56-0 at HALFTIME.

Re: There is actually a way to beat the Pats but I don't think any coach has thought
 

I've thought that for awhile, but while it might change the dynamics of the game, our D is actually quite good, and the result would probably be the same. Nonetheless, if I was coaching the Eagles, I'd keep the O on the field for 4 downs, use onside kicks, etc. At the very least, by having to defend a short field, it would prevent the D from getting overtired, and give the team at least an outside chance of competing for all 60 minutes.

Re: There is actually a way to beat the Pats but I don't think any coach has thought
 

I think more teams should go for it on 4th down in general, not that it's a sure thing.

But 4th and 2 and the opponents 40...why punt? Odds are it goes in the endzone and it's at the 20.

Re: There is actually a way to beat the Pats but I don't think any coach has thought
 

True, but it will also tend to increase your opponents' scoring over the course of the game.

Re: There is actually a way to beat the Pats but I don't think any coach has thought
 

This has been shown to be clearly true by lots of statistical analysis. Teams punt much, much too often. Risk aversion is rampant in the NFL. Even before this scorched-earth season, BB was one of the few coaches who took the academic analyses seriously and started leaving the punter on the shelf. It's not just running up the score, it's sound football.

Re: There is actually a way to beat the Pats but I don't think any coach has thought
 

A followup thought...this season the Pats have scored with as much regularity from deep in their own territory as from anywhere else on the field. So if you're a Pats opponent, punting on 4th and 3 when you've reached midfield is just wasting one of your own precious chances to score.

Re: There is actually a way to beat the Pats but I don't think any coach has thought
 

I don't quite agree with the go for it on fourth down by our opponents. Look at the risk involved if you don't make it against this Pats team at the moment.
You don't make it, Pats get the ball and next thing you know your another touchdown behind. What good is it to give them a shorter field to work with if it means you'll be further behind even quicker! :confused: