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It's interesting to see the fringe Left and the rabid far right agreeing on one thing this week: it's the Jews.

I know, I know, I must be "playing the anti-Semitism card."

PFnV

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c'mon... you are a poster i respect and someone who always takes a noble path amid so much mudslinging here, but this thread starter is beneath you...

as a member of the "fringe" left, i NEVER said "it's the Jews"...

that being said, there are people of Jewish faith (Randi Rhodes, John Stewart), and then there is the Israeli government...

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Hey, PCov, I have no problem with that fact. But in the fervor to go after the Israeli government, a number of errors are being trotted out of late. Two become serious problems:

1) The idea that you must oppose the existence of Israel to oppose particular actions of Israel, and, more distressingly,

2) If Jews support Israel, their loyalties are divided, and their American credentials are null and void.

A third contention invariably follows:

3) If you disagree with either of these demonstrably erroneous premises, you are censoring their source, and playing "the anti-Semitism card"

Many members of the Fringe Right disagree with Coulter as well. Unpleasant as it may be to those who are somewhat left of the current political center, it's difficult to deny that Leftists and Rightists are both increasingly falling into a pattern. That doesn't mean all... but it is a noticeable uptick, from the point of view of those of us who follow such phenomena.

Hey, the Zeitgeist is what it is.

PFnV

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There's also an element out there - either Zionists or Christian - who claim anti-Semitism every time Israeli policy is condemned. That bothers me as well

By the way, I agree with you on # 1 strongly. About #2, I think support of Israel is unfounded politically (just my opinion) and rather contradictory religiously (not that religion should matter at all), but it's hardly anti-American. Your credentials are good, even if you like Israel. I like Iceland a lot, But that doesn't make me pro-Lutheran, pro-Pagan or un-American.

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Stuck in the middle, not sure with whom though.

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Rhodes/Stewart they probably don't have any relatives left over there "To Cook" if Iran drops the bomb or get their Guts Blown Open if some Smelly Palestinian blows up the Bus they're taking the kids to the beach on.

Israeli Jews are now coming to HATE Hollywood Jews, the Hollywood type Jews are now almost to the point that they SUPPORT the Muslims that want Destroy Israel and slaughter their own people.

Barbara "Ugly" Streisand took her *****ty movie Yentil over to Israel a few years back so all her ancestors could watch and slobber over her because the Movie was a big flop over here, they welcomed her as a fellow Jew, now after she has changed almost into a "Muslim Supporter" a few weeks ago a leading Jew in Israel commented "Striesand" had bettter never set foot in Israel again, People like Striesand, Rhodes, Stewart, and many more in the entertainment world seem to turn on their own homeland all because of their HATRED and Jealousy of George Bush, the American people ignored them and all the "Soros Money" because of the two FOOLS they nominated (Gore/Kerry) and then elected Bush, "TWICE".

The entertainment worlds Jews will elect a Democrat in 2008, they will then leave the Middle East and go over to fight the Hollywood War in Dafur, Iran will then NUKE Israel, then whoever survives the Nuke the Palestinians will slaughter, the Hollywood Jews will have lost their heritage, Israel will finally be gone, Rob Riener, Streisand and the rest of the far left wing Haters will make a few Anti American Movies Blaming It All On George Bush then they will hold a Giant Wife Swapping Party.

Israel will be gone and over in Dafur American Troops will be dying and getting carved up with machettes in the "great and wonderful democrat war"

It Boggles The Mind What Political Hatred Can Do
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BILL COSBY FOR PRESIDENT STOP THE KILLING
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:agree: :yeahthat:

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I could never understand the "Love Affair" that America had with Israel right up to the point that if you criticized Israel your life was over, it seems the Democrats are changing all that.
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Here verbatum is a conversation I had with a Haitian women at JFK, during the early 90s when she saw hundreds of Russian Jews being admitted to the US as "refugees". I think it pretty much sums this whole argument up:

Haitian Women (in a loud and condesending voice): "How come you guys welcome all these Russian Jews in as refugees, yet you go out on the ocean and intercept poor starving Haitians and stop them from landing in the US and return them to Haiti?"

Me: Because the Haitians who live here, do not line Congress' pockets with money.


She had no comeback.

That being said, I would side with Israel over any Arab states that surround it. Israel has offered concession after consession, and all they have gotten for it is more violence.

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I too would side with Israel over any and all Muslim Nations even though I have been called a bigot and a racist for daring to question the Persecution of any prominent public figure that has also dared to speak out against some in the American Jewish Society.

Israel is a small little country surrounded by Religious Savage Fanatics that want every Jew in the world DEAD.

Wake up liberal american democrat bush hating Jews, Hitler is back, he is wearing a white sheet, he lives in a cave, he rides a donkey and his name is Osama.

Yassar Arafat is dead but there are plenty more where he came from.

Yes Streisand, Stewart and Rob Reiner wake up, the Holocaust is starting again and the America you are TRASHING is trying to help your people, you f-cking sore losing left wing bastards.
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