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mossdeep 09-26-2007 10:52 AM

Let's talk about speed
 
For all the stat lover's out there. Are you people really aware how fast Donte, Randy and Ben are?

When these guys healthy, they're not only fast. They're the FASTEST at their positions. I think we've only seen the tip of the iceburg on Donte's potential.


Some blurbs I've cut and pasted from various articles on the web:


"While at Florida State, Moss ran a 4.25 40-yard dash"

"(Moss reportedly ran a 4.29 for the Patriots in a recent workout)"

"Many claims about Michael Vick running a 4.15 are not true, the fastest electronic 40 time ever recorded by the NFL was Donte' Stallworth's 4.26 this year which broke the old electronic record of 4.29 by Deon Sanders."

(On Ben Watson): "Regarded as one of the premier tight ends in the country after a stellar junior campaign, Watson was hampered most of his final season with a nagging ankle injury … Fine athlete with tremendous quickness, boasting the fastest 40-yard dash (4.44) of any tight end in college football"

Phokus 09-26-2007 11:18 AM

Re: Let's talk about speed
 
If Stallworth is that fast, he better be getting wide open down the field a lot more often!

cartmen 09-26-2007 11:22 AM

Re: Let's talk about speed
 
Nice little thread...but Speed has very little to do with being successful. The ability to get open in tight spaces is vastly underrated. Moss is 6-4 so its easy for him to catch a ball while being double covered but Troy Brown is 5-9 and he can get open with the best of em. Those guys, Moss, Stallworth and Watson, are extreemly fast but BW still has to learn a little more how to run a clean seam route and get open. When he does get good at it he will then start being compared to the guy who every Pats fan thinks he can be, Ben Coates

363839 09-26-2007 11:24 AM

Re: Let's talk about speed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Phokus (Post 542363)
If Stallworth is that fast, he better be getting wide open down the field a lot more often!

You gotta remember that the other wr is a guy name Randy Moss.
Also competing is Wes Welker.
Besides that, speed does not neccasarily translate to a lot of catches but
it still stretches opposing defenses.

363839 09-26-2007 11:25 AM

Re: Let's talk about speed
 
Good post, Eric....,I mean Cartman.:D

HEY BRO! WHAT UP? 09-26-2007 11:56 AM

Re: Let's talk about speed
 
Watson is the second fastest TE in the league behind Vernon Davis. He ran a 4.38 and when he gets the ball in the open field, it's very difficult to catch up to him. He could easily play WR. If the 9ers had a better QB, Davis would be unstopable.

Seacoast Fan 09-26-2007 12:43 PM

Re: Let's talk about speed
 
I agree with the comments about the need to run precise routes, but the thing I really like about the way the Pats went about the off-season acquisitions, is thtat they kept the heart of the tough, cold weather, outdoor, sloopy field Pats, but at the same time added alot of speed, players like Moss, Welker, Adalius, who are going to do great in a dome, ie, Indy in the playoffs if we end up there again.

cstjohn17 09-26-2007 12:50 PM

Re: Let's talk about speed
 
Do they look good in swim suits also?

I love the draft and stats as much as anyone but history has proven that speed and measurables are overrated. The minimum standards for an NFL player immediately place the athletes among the best in the world.

Didn't Jerry Rice run a 4.6? and Welker a 4.65? Bethel Johnson has damn fast and look at him.

ClevTrev 09-26-2007 12:57 PM

Re: Let's talk about speed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Flying Fungi (Post 542445)
wrong Moss I think...why would Randy Moss get timed at FSU?

Ditto, second the question.

They're all fast and becoming more precise this season under the tutelage of Brady.

Flying Fungi 09-26-2007 01:04 PM

Re: Let's talk about speed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ClevTrev (Post 542450)
Ditto, second the question.

They're all fast and becoming more precise this season under the tutelage of Brady.

he tried out for Bobby Bowden at FSU before joining Marshall...bad memory on my behalf...I was thinking Santana Moss, but he was Miami...


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