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patsox23 09-24-2007 06:55 PM

CHFF on Pats...
 
http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com...AND_stats.html

Good read. Thanks to www.patriotsdaily.com for linking it.

kurtinelson 09-24-2007 07:38 PM

Re: CHFF on Pats...
 
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Originally Posted by patsox23 (Post 540692)

Holy crap! The 1998 Minnesota Vikings had the top ranked scoring offense in the Super Bowl era.

1998 Vikings - 34.75 PPG (556 in 16 games)

chris_in_sunnyvale 09-25-2007 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by kurtinelson (Post 540773)
Holy crap! The 1998 Minnesota Vikings had the top ranked scoring offense in the Super Bowl era.

1998 Vikings - 34.75 PPG (556 in 16 games)

It's funny that this article mentions the 1998 Vikings w/Moss and that they are the top-scoring team (in SB era). I was thinking of those Vikings, those 15-1 Vikings. That Vikings team didn't have the defense this Pats team has.

Obviously there will be talk of 16-0 (or 19-0), but cautious preseason estimates figured the typical 11 or 12 wins, maybe an aggressive prediction of 13. Now 13 wins looks conservative. Fourteen seems like a floor at this point, with 15 very doable and 16 not out of the question. I thought the 2004 team would be the best Pats team I've ever seen, but I very well may be wrong.

Regards,
Chris

P.S. Pats, please stay healthy.

Dragda 09-25-2007 11:37 AM

Re: CHFF on Pats...
 
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Originally Posted by chris_in_sunnyvale (Post 541397)
It's funny that this article mentions the 1998 Vikings w/Moss and that they are the top-scoring team (in SB era). I was thinking of those Vikings, those 15-1 Vikings. That Vikings team didn't have the defense this Pats team has.

Obviously there will be talk of 16-0 (or 19-0), but cautious preseason estimates figured the typical 11 or 12 wins, maybe an aggressive prediction of 13. Now 13 wins looks conservative. Fourteen seems like a floor at this point, with 15 very doable and 16 not out of the question. I thought the 2004 team would be the best Pats team I've ever seen, but I very well may be wrong.

Regards,
Chris

P.S. Pats, please stay healthy.


Chris_in_Sunnyvale wrong abotu something football related? I've been waiting a long time for that day! Welcome to my world.

Patsfanin Philly 09-25-2007 11:49 AM

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But the Patriots kept matriculating themselves up the field<<<<<

They entered college??????I think somebody opened Roget's Thesaurus and pulled out the first word they saw or had a bet they could use the word matriculate in an article. Good article otherwise...

JJDChE 09-25-2007 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Patsfanin Philly (Post 541436)
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But the Patriots kept matriculating themselves up the field<<<<<

They entered college??????I think somebody opened Roget's Thesaurus and pulled out the first word they saw or had a bet they could use the word matriculate in an article. Good article otherwise...


You're a youngster, eh?

Most long time football fans will always have the image Hank Stram pop into mind when someone mentions "matriculating" the ball down the field.

FlyingElvis75 09-25-2007 11:54 AM

Re: CHFF on Pats...
 
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Originally Posted by kurtinelson (Post 540773)
Holy crap! The 1998 Minnesota Vikings had the top ranked scoring offense in the Super Bowl era.

1998 Vikings - 34.75 PPG (556 in 16 games)

You didn't know that? The single-season scoring record?? They also went 15-1 that year. Did you know that?

Well, I didn't either. Not many people do. Why? Because that team didn't even REACH the Superbowl.

PPG and other stats like that are interesting, but they're trivia. Nobody cares about them unless you win the big one. Or at least the conf. championship.

Whoever said "The journey matters more than the destination" wasn't talking about football. In football, it seems like nobody cares about the journey unless you reach the destination. :)

shmessy 09-25-2007 12:01 PM

Re: CHFF on Pats...
 
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Originally Posted by Patsfanin Philly (Post 541436)
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But the Patriots kept matriculating themselves up the field<<<<<

They entered college??????I think somebody opened Roget's Thesaurus and pulled out the first word they saw or had a bet they could use the word matriculate in an article. Good article otherwise...


It's an "in" joke with folks who are fans of the great NFL Fims of the the 1970 Super Bowl IV.

The background story from Ed Sabol is that Stram also asked for an "honorarium" for his work being miked up.

JJDChE 09-25-2007 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by FlyingElvis75 (Post 541449)
You didn't know that? The single-season scoring record?? They also went 15-1 that year. Did you know that?

Well, I didn't either. Not many people do. Why? Because that team didn't even REACH the Superbowl.

PPG and other stats like that are interesting, but they're trivia. Nobody cares about them unless you win the big one. Or at least the conf. championship.

Whoever said "The journey matters more than the destination" wasn't talking about football. In football, it seems like nobody cares about the journey unless you reach the destination. :)


I certainly remember that. What a brutal end to the season for the Vikings that year.

Their season ended due to a missed FG in the NFCCG. It was Gary Anderson's first missed FG of the season. He was 35-35 up to that point.

JJDChE 09-25-2007 12:06 PM

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Make no mistake, the faux-erudite Stram could be creative with language, too. His entreaty to his Kansas City Chiefs players during their victory over Minnesota in Super Bowl IV, to keep "matriculating" the ball up the field, boys, is certainly one of the most unforgettable moments in the NFL Films archive. In truth, it is just a masterful bit of malapropism, since "matriculate" means to enroll at a school of higher education, not to advance a football.
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