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patsox23 09-04-2007 11:59 PM

Tomase with an interesting observation on Seymour...
 
http://www.bostonherald.com/blogs/sports/patriots/

Note on Seymour
Posted by John Tomase at 11:27 pm

This was tucked at the bottom of today’s Patriots notebook, but it’s worth noting, simply because there’s been precious little to report about Richard Seymour’s surgically repaired left knee — Seymour was spotted working out in the weight room on Monday, wearing a sleeve that covered virtually his entire leg. He appeared to be moving OK, for whatever that’s worth.

Seymour is on the physically unable to perform list and will miss at least the first six games of the season. It’s possible he suffered a setback of some kind this month, because in early August he was running through a series of agility drills on a side field with other injured players, like Kyle Brady, and he didn’t appear to be favoring either leg at the time.

DarrylS 09-05-2007 04:31 AM

Re: Tomase with an interesting observation on Seymour....
 
Doesn't sound good, but it is not clear what that means.. could it be a device to improve circulation or something like that or is it something to immobilize the knee..

SaCaCh 09-05-2007 04:42 AM

Re: Tomase with an interesting observation on Seymour....
 
Hmm, this could be an infection issue. Those can get very nasty depending on what kind you get and could be why his status for the year is up in the air because you just don't know when it will subside.

Pats726 09-05-2007 05:05 AM

Re: Tomase with an interesting observation on Seymour....
 
Doesn't seem good at all....I saw the PFT blurb and..a year????

PATSNUTme 09-05-2007 07:38 AM

Re: Tomase with an interesting observation on Seymour....
 
It's another "throw a dart against the wall" piece because he has nothing else to write about.

patchick 09-05-2007 08:13 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by PATSNUTme (Post 503157)
It's another "throw a dart against the wall" piece because he has nothing else to write about.

And he says as much up front. But the leg sleeve is the most concrete information we've gotten so far on Seymour (which goes to show you how little anybody really knows!)

Metaphors 09-05-2007 08:21 AM

Re: Tomase with an interesting observation on Seymour....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by patsox23 (Post 503053)
Seymour was spotted working out in the weight room on Monday, wearing a sleeve that covered virtually his entire leg. He appeared to be moving OK, for whatever that’s worth.

This is what I would expect if he was just still trying to get to 100% with the knee. He is not going to take the field for another 6+ weeks so stabilizing the knee during workouts would seem to be prudent. If he wasn't working out or if it was a bulky brace that restricted mobility, I would be really concerned. I still think that the Pats and Seymour didn't want him to take the field until he was 100% given the trials of last season. If that is the case, I'm all for it...will only benefit Seymour physically and mentally.

Who knows what the real situation is. I just haven't seen anything yet that "smells" like a real setback. Just a slow recovery and a desire to be completely healthy. Seymour has been around camp for quite a while now and he is hard to hide. I would think there would be direct evidence of a setback instead of just drawing conclusions based on the pace of recovery.

shmessy 09-05-2007 08:22 AM

Re: Tomase with an interesting observation on Seymour....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by patchick (Post 503187)
And he says as much up front. But the leg sleeve is the most concrete information we've gotten so far on Seymour (which goes to show you how little anybody really knows!)

I agree. That was something that I'm glad someone could report.

BB gives out nothing, and I appreciate Tomase being the only one to get at least this info.

MoLewisrocks 09-05-2007 10:08 AM

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Truth be told, a setback is one thing whereas the knee not responding as hoped, which is how Reiss' characterized it in his Q&A session yesterday, is a lot more troubling from a long term implications standpoint. If Richard gets "hurt" a lot, and he doesn't respond well (either in ability to play well through injury or rebound from it in a reasonable time frame), it doesn't bode well for his career from a durability/value standpoint. I wouldn't be surprised if that isn't why he is on an unusual 3 year extension for a player of his talent at this age and we have rolled a first (which could be a good one after watching Alex Smith and the 49'ers in pre season) into the future.

Some thought it was beyond bizarre when they gave Jarvis Green the money they did a few years ago. Others thought it was just a hedge against getting Richard locked up long term and Green would be dealt once Richard was locked up. Perhaps it was already insurance against a nagging concern that for all his talent, Richard might not stand up due to durability issues. His rookie deal was heavily incentivized and even though he made multiple pro bowls he wasn't fully cashing in because his escalators also partially tied to playing time and even personal (as opposed to team) appearances in playoff games, which he missed a couple of in 2004. That is likely why he essentially demanded a redo in 2005 pending a new deal in 2006. He wasn't making his escalators, despite repeated pro bowl nods, because he was missing late season games due to injury.

Last year he played through injuries, with cash in hand, but he proved to be far less effective than usual. He seems to be one of those ultra talented players that 80% of just doesn't cut it. Like all of us, coaches value talent, but they crave consistency when building a roster and forging a team. Nothing you can do matters (or helps them) unless you can do it on the field consistently. By the time the dust settles on this installment of the Seymour saga, he will have missed an entire regular season or 1/7th of his entire career, and nearly a third of the last 38-40 regular season games his team has played. That's just not good.

patsox23 09-05-2007 10:23 AM

Re: Tomase with an interesting observation on Seymour....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PATSNUTme (Post 503157)
It's another "throw a dart against the wall" piece because he has nothing else to write about.

Oh good CHRIST, you people are absolutely relentless and pathetic in spinning every single thing that guy reports as some sort of conspiratiorial B.S. YOU guys have way, wayyyyyyy less credibility than he does.


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