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DarrylS 09-02-2007 02:35 PM

Jacoby Ellsbury..
 
looks like he is following the lead of Bucholz, great fielding.. homerun, gotta love these new kids.. maybe we should break tradition, let them run out the season, bench J.D. Drew.. .maybe their desire will get infectious. Gonna be tough to keep them off the big team next year.. Moss is close behind.

patriotspride 09-02-2007 03:33 PM

Re: Jacoby Ellsbury..
 
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Originally Posted by GJAJ15 (Post 500175)
looks like he is following the lead of Bucholz, great fielding.. homerun, gotta love these new kids.. maybe we should break tradition, let them run out the season, bench J.D. Drew.. .maybe their desire will get infectious. Gonna be tough to keep them off the big team next year.. Moss is close behind.

theres a very good chance coco will be traded this off season to make room for ellsbury .i dont know if thats good or bad .i would like to see them find a way to keep both .but i doubt it.

dalero 09-02-2007 03:51 PM

Re: Jacoby Ellsbury..
 
Nice win!! Started 4 Rooks then brought in another in Oki who was real good today. These kids playing and excelling in a pennant race at Fenway is pretty amazing.

Foley 09-02-2007 09:05 PM

Re: Jacoby Ellsbury..
 
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Originally Posted by patriotspride (Post 500204)
theres a very good chance coco will be traded this off season to make room for ellsbury .i dont know if thats good or bad .i would like to see them find a way to keep both .but i doubt it.

It's a good thing. Crisp very quietly put together a terrible August, so if they can get anything of value back in a trade than they should do it. His hot stretch in June and July was encouraging, but hes turned back into the Coco Crisp from the beginning of the year.

Barring a serious injury I can't see a scenario where Ellsbury is not the fulltime CF next year. Although... Ellsbury would be a nice replacement for a departing Torii Hunter in Minnesota and could headline a trade for a certain disgruntled best pitcher in baseball. But thats just a pipe dream on my part.

FreeTedWilliams 09-03-2007 06:53 AM

Re: Jacoby Ellsbury..
 
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Originally Posted by Foley (Post 500485)
It's a good thing. Crisp very quietly put together a terrible August, so if they can get anything of value back in a trade than they should do it. His hot stretch in June and July was encouraging, but hes turned back into the Coco Crisp from the beginning of the year.

Barring a serious injury I can't see a scenario where Ellsbury is not the fulltime CF next year. Although... Ellsbury would be a nice replacement for a departing Torii Hunter in Minnesota and could headline a trade for a certain disgruntled best pitcher in baseball. But thats just a pipe dream on my part.

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We have enough pitching! Ellsbury has roctketed through the minors, I watched him in Class A and he was a man amoungts boys. This kid should be starting TODAY, nevermind next year. He has faster than Coco, has more power, higher average, better base stealer, the only thing that Coco might have on him is fielding and only slightly. If he isn't in centefield when the playoffs begin, I'll be pissed.

Foley 09-03-2007 11:10 AM

Re: Jacoby Ellsbury..
 
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Originally Posted by FreeTedWilliams (Post 500734)
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We have enough pitching! Ellsbury has roctketed through the minors, I watched him in Class A and he was a man amoungts boys. This kid should be starting TODAY, nevermind next year. He has faster than Coco, has more power, higher average, better base stealer, the only thing that Coco might have on him is fielding and only slightly. If he isn't in centefield when the playoffs begin, I'll be pissed.

Sure, hes better than Crisp. Thats not a complement and I wasn't saying otherwise. Ellsbury has hit a total of 11HR since being drafted by the Red Sox, is the owner a .380SLG this season at AAA (.425SLG career), and despite the amazing speed he has only 36 extrabase hits this season. Hes a very good basestealer and will hit for a decent average, but his power is not an advantage. Not that anyone else really thinks otherwise.

I'm sorry if you think using him to trade for the best pitcher in baseball is so asinine, but if a singles hitter with 40SB a season can be a big piece in a trade to get him than it should be done.

Fixit 09-03-2007 03:16 PM

Re: Jacoby Ellsbury..
 
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Originally Posted by patriotspride (Post 500204)
theres a very good chance coco will be traded this off season to make room for ellsbury .i dont know if thats good or bad .i would like to see them find a way to keep both .but i doubt it.

Crisp's defense is awesome...he might not drive in a bunch of runs, but a run saved is as good as a run scored. I'd rather lose Drew (and his monster salary) and move one of the other two to right.

patriotspride 09-03-2007 05:48 PM

Re: Jacoby Ellsbury..
 
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Originally Posted by Fixit (Post 501374)
Crisp's defense is awesome...he might not drive in a bunch of runs, but a run saved is as good as a run scored. I'd rather lose Drew (and his monster salary) and move one of the other two to right.

who wouldnt love to see drew gone .but with his salary and poor performance no team is going to take him unless the sox eat most of his contract .i think coco is gone after this year .

patsfanofNC12 09-03-2007 08:07 PM

Re: Jacoby Ellsbury..
 
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Originally Posted by Fixit (Post 501374)
Crisp's defense is awesome...he might not drive in a bunch of runs, but a run saved is as good as a run scored. I'd rather lose Drew (and his monster salary) and move one of the other two to right.

That is just what I was thinking
:agree:

TomBrady'sGoat 09-04-2007 09:22 AM

Re: Jacoby Ellsbury..
 
I love it when people say the Sox should keep Coco and get rid of Drew. Coco was worse last year than Drew has been this year.

Coco is a 1-dimensional player right now, and that one dimension had not been displayed in prior years. Maybe he achieved a new level of defensive ability, but he could also just be having a career year defensively.

Coco has done nothing to show that he's half the player offensively he was in Cleveland. Ship him out while you can try to sell him as the best defensive CF in the game.

The only way I want to see Coco in a Boston uniform next year is if Ellsbury can get them a stud in a trade (I had always hoped they could do an Ellsbury+ for Salty before Atlanta traded him). I'd be perfectly happy losing Jacoby as part of a package for Cabrera or Santana, but those are pipe dreams.


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